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Offline Wyoduster

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38 cal./8 ga. O/U maker?? Pictures added
« on: September 15, 2019, 09:18:23 PM »
Just bought this over under 38 cal on top and 8 ga. under. with the stamp J.K.Guger.Muncy under the 8 gauge barrel, any information???









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Offline OLUT

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Re: 38 cal./8 ga. O/U maker??
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2019, 04:16:52 PM »
As a collector of percussion over under guns for many years, this is a new one for me ..... the closest gunsmith that I know of in Muncy, Lycoming County , Pa is J P GUYER  (and later he added his son, Clinton Guyer). J P used a stamp on his work that is not at all similar to your barrel marking. Also, an 8 gauge barrel on a combination gun is EXCEEDINGLY unique; the largest I have in my collection are a couple 10 gauge. I suspect that your gun is a  product of a part time gunsmith very late in the percussion period, maybe 1880's or 1890's. A couple photos MIGHT help, but I doubt that there is much to be found about this maker. Good luck in your search. If you do find more information, I would like to add it to my informal listing of percussion over under gun makers

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Re: 38 cal./8 ga. O/U maker??
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2019, 04:22:57 PM »
UPDATE - Seller's "American Gunsmiths" has a listing "GUGER, MUNCY, PENSYLVANIA,1861d. SEE JAMER GUYER"

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Re: 38 cal./8 ga. O/U maker?? Pictures added
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2019, 07:12:01 PM »
Thanks. Pictures added..

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Re: 38 cal./8 ga. O/U maker?? Pictures added
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2019, 09:50:17 PM »
I'll attach the barrel stamp that I've seen on a few J P Guyer guns ....note also the unique stamped design on either side of the rear sight. Your gun looks like the over under gun in Cordier's June auction. It's a nice collectors piece from the 1860 to 1880's era, but again the 8 gauge barrel makes it unique. Also, the bottom barrel is typically fired with the lock on the other side.


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Re: 38 cal./8 ga. O/U maker?? Pictures added
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2019, 12:40:06 AM »
P. Guger is listed in Gluckman & Saterlee's American Gunmakers 2nd Edition, on page 83, as making "Percussion Kentucky Rifles". P. Guger is listed as being from Murray Pa.

Perhaps a relative, father/son?
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