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Offline Daniel

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club butt
« on: September 24, 2019, 11:27:15 PM »
I am looking for good pictures of club butt muskets/ fowlers.
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Offline BOB HILL

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Re: club butt
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2019, 11:41:01 PM »
Mike Brooks has some good pictures on his web site.
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Offline Jason C

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Re: club butt
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2019, 11:46:45 PM »
Quote from: BOB HILL on September 24, 2019, 11:41:01 PM
Mike Brooks has some good pictures on his web site.
Bob
on his old site http://www.fowlingguns.com/ not very many on his new site yet...
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Offline Mike Brooks

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Re: club butt
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2019, 12:16:54 AM »
I have several to build. BUY Grinslade's book on Colonial fowling guns.
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Re: club butt
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2019, 12:33:00 AM »
Quote from: Mike Brooks on September 25, 2019, 12:16:54 AM
I have several to build. BUY Grinslade's book on Colonial fowling guns.

Agree. Get the book!  It’s a bargain.
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Offline bob in the woods

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Re: club butt
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2019, 02:29:36 AM »
Absolutely.  Buy the book.  I've worn mine dogeared . 
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Offline Jason C

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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2019, 02:50:29 AM »
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Re: club butt
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2019, 02:52:24 AM »
Flintlock Fowlers.
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Re: club butt
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2019, 03:06:48 AM »
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Re: club butt
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2019, 04:28:32 AM »
  Check out Ken Gahagan.  quite sure he can help..

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Re: club butt
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2019, 10:08:53 PM »
Daniel, I would agree that by far Grinslades book on Flintlock Fowlers is the best source for firearms of this sort. I've worn out my first copy and working on my second. If you would like some pictures of the Fowlers I have build using this book for reference I could (I think) post some pictures of Hudson Valley Fowlers, Club butt and New England Fowlers.
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Re: club butt
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2019, 10:16:28 PM »
Pls. do Ken!
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Re: club butt
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2019, 11:56:40 PM »
Hopefully we have some pictures of various Hudson Valley Fowlers. Some were build from an original I had on loan and some but the information supplied in Tom Grinslades book. Hope they are what yoju had in mind.











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Offline k gahagan

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Re: club butt
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2019, 12:04:26 AM »
These pictures are of a Club Butt based on various features from Grinslades book.







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Offline Mike Brooks

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Re: club butt
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2019, 01:51:47 AM »
Outstanding work Ken.
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Re: club butt
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2019, 03:09:58 AM »
No kidding!!  Thanks for the imagaes.
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Offline rich pierce

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Re: club butt
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2019, 05:31:27 AM »
Should see them in the flesh.
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Offline Daniel

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Re: club butt
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2019, 06:02:03 AM »
 Thank you Ken very much.

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Offline BOB HILL

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Re: club butt
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2019, 07:06:59 AM »
Thanks for sharing these, Ken. They are great.
Bob
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Offline Mike Brooks

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Re: club butt
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2019, 03:26:36 PM »
Quote from: rich pierce on September 27, 2019, 05:31:27 AM
Should see them in the flesh.
He'll even let you handle them if you bring your own white gloves.
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Offline Craig Wilcox

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Re: club butt
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2019, 12:20:06 AM »
I had always thought of Club Butts as being quite ungainly, kind of ugly in fact. I think it was mostly older, B & W pictures that I had seen.
The club butt rifles above are, very simply, very beautiful.  And they seem to "want" you to go shoot them.  They are sleek, graceful, and well engineered - so thanks for enlightening me.
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Re: club butt
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2019, 02:34:43 AM »
Quote from: Craig Wilcox on September 28, 2019, 12:20:06 AM
I had always thought of Club Butts as being quite ungainly, kind of ugly in fact. I think it was mostly older, B & W pictures that I had seen.
The club butt rifles above are, very simply, very beautiful.  And they seem to "want" you to go shoot them.  They are sleek, graceful, and well engineered - so thanks for enlightening me.
They are my favorite style for making Turkey Mashers, the architecture is excellent for big bores with heavy loads.
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Offline Craig Wilcox

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Re: club butt
« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2019, 04:54:55 PM »
What kind of weight do they have, Mike?  I do like big bores/heavy loads, but life has placed me in a condition where I have to start lightening up the "bump".  I have always enjoyed the "turkey smashers".  Next rifle will be a .62 Don Stith- I also like reaching out for a paper target or steel gong, and there is almost no way to escape the heavier recoil except to raise the weight of the rifle a bit.
I guess I could also stick one or two of Brownell's mercury-filled recoil tubes into the butt....  Several years ago I made a 12 ga for a fellow with a separated shoulder.  Put three of those in the stock, and it could be fired with one hand.  Not any room for a patch box though.
Could be that the lowered butt of the club-butt could help re-direct some of the energy.
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Re: club butt
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2019, 05:20:11 PM »
Lovely work Ken.  Outstanding!

I have an old (1690-1710) barrel marked to Thomas Bannister, and these photos are getting me all enthused to get it stocked and locked  once again!
(54" barrel).
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Offline oldtravler61

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Re: club butt
« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2019, 06:19:14 PM »
  Ken an Mike do excellent work. They are an interesting style of gun. Pay attention to what these guy's tell you.  Thanks for posting Ken..
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