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Offline Stoner creek

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Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« on: October 18, 2019, 12:13:37 AM »
Sometimes it pays to be lucky. I spent my day today wading through imported Chinese flea market junk and a plenty of black composite stock guns. I look over at the far end of a table and half covered with junk is this nice little piece screaming “please get me out of here”.
Here are the stats. .34 caliber at the wore slick muzzle. 40 1/8” long with approx 1 1/2” of barrel shortened. .920 at the breech, .880 at the waist, & .905 at the muzzle.
Look at the pictures. Give me your best guess as to its origin (obviously in the south). The maker took the liberty to do a little extra decorative file work. I really like the guns’ profile. It kinda has that Whitson profile to my eyes.
Enjoy!!!



















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Offline Tim Crosby

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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2019, 12:31:53 AM »
 That is Really neat and from a Flea Market no less. I do like that profile and the BP. Is it nailed on?


   Thanks, Tim

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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2019, 12:36:50 AM »
Yes, and the toe plate is riveted to the butt plate. 3 ringed iron thimbles and no skirt on the entry pipe.

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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2019, 12:40:53 AM »
Really neat interesting flea market find Stoner. Look forward to seeing it in the flesh. Thanks for sharing.  Now I guess I'm gonna have to start hitting the flea markets.
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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2019, 12:56:55 AM »
You very obviously have a higher class of fleas than we have around where I live.

Nice piece, thanks for sharing!
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Offline Bob McBride

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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2019, 02:19:12 AM »
Even the fleas at our flea markets are Chinese seconds....
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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2019, 02:36:36 AM »
I'm going to have to go flea marketing with you. Never seen anything other than a few tool or cast iron skillets worth looking at. Neat rifle I like the rear sight and the filed design on the trigger guard.

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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2019, 03:51:32 AM »
Boy, you cant help but taking home orphans can you?

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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2019, 04:36:29 AM »
Nice rifle Stoner.  It may be an original KY rifle. 

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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2019, 05:57:08 AM »
Good catch, Wayne!  I’ve seen that “tombstone” lock bolt washer in Dennis’ Gillespie book...but the triggerguard is certainly different. I’ll be interested to hear the experts weigh in.

My big flea market score for the year was a Howard Hill “Tembo” longbow I picked up last month for $75 bucks...

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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2019, 02:18:53 PM »
What were you doing off Stoner creek property? Nice find. I'm thinking NC for sure but I'm sure the pros here will prove me wrong. A lot to like about that gun, file work and all the stuff that's nailed on. The maker must have took one look at that trigger guard and figured it was just fine the way it was with out spending a whole day filing on it to pretty it up.
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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2019, 02:49:04 PM »
What were you doing off Stoner creek property? Nice find. I'm thinking NC for sure but I'm sure the pros here will prove me wrong. A lot to like about that gun, file work and all the stuff that's nailed on. The maker must have took one look at that trigger guard and figured it was just fine the way it was with out spending a whole day filing on it to pretty it up.

I agree with Mike, looks western NC to me. I have seen those triggers on several late Gillespie rifles. I often wondered if someone in the area was making and selling them to other makers.

Wyane, how is the trigger plate shaped?
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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2019, 03:20:05 PM »
Dennis I'm not sure but I would guess that the trigger is a hardware store piece although your idea may be spot on. I'll have it at the Knoxville show.  I really want to get your, Randall  Pierce, and Dana's opinions. I'll bet my friend Wayne Elliott could contribute as well.
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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2019, 03:34:12 PM »
Great profile. My guess would be Robert Hughes or Whitson influence.
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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2019, 04:11:47 PM »
Hey Wayne,

Court days?  Nice catch!

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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2019, 04:17:03 PM »
Hey Wayne,

Court days?  Nice catch!

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Yep. The one in Preston.

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Re: Flea market find! Attn:CCF!!!
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2019, 03:21:44 AM »
Dennis I'm not sure but I would guess that the trigger is a hardware store piece although your idea may be spot on. I'll have it at the Knoxville show.  I really want to get your, Randall  Pierce, and Dana's opinions. I'll bet my friend Wayne Elliott could contribute as well.
Hope to be at Knoxville show.
Dennis
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