Author Topic: Some lock filing and polishing holding tools (Read 3333 times)

David Rase · « **on:** November 04, 2019, 06:07:33 AM »

Locks have always presented a challenge, at least to me, when it comes to preparing them for browning, case color hardening or just leaving them in the white. I thought I would share a couple of simple tools I made from some scrape pieces of round stock for holding lock parts for doing this work. What I find user friendly about these tools is the ability to be able to orient the part I am polishing to an infinite number of positions. Hope these simple tools help to inspire you come up with some of your own unique ways for holding parts.
David

A piece of 5/16" round stock with threads on one end that match the top jaw screw female threads.

The 3/8" piece of round stock being used to hold the cock through the tumbler hole.

The 1/2" piece of round stock used to hole the lockplate through the tumbler hole.

The complete set of holding tools. Left to right: 1/2", 3/8", 5/16" tools with various threaded holes with flat and button head screws and the 5/16" threaded rod with shoulder.

J. Talbert · « **Reply #1 on:** November 04, 2019, 06:44:09 AM »

I like'em.
Ive never bothered to check. What are the typical thread sizes for the top jaw screw? How many different variants have you encountered?

Jeff

smylee grouch · « **Reply #2 on:** November 04, 2019, 06:48:00 AM »

Another why didnt I think of that idea. Great idea,

David Rase · « **Reply #3 on:** November 04, 2019, 07:13:20 AM »

Quote from: J. Talbert on November 04, 2019, 06:44:09 AM

I like'em.
Ive never bothered to check. What are the typical thread sizes for the top jaw screw? How many different variants have you encountered?

Jeff

12-24, 1/4-20 and 1/4-28 seem to be the most popular sizes that I have run across.
david

Curtis · « **Reply #4 on:** November 04, 2019, 08:06:38 AM »

Great ideas David!

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #5 on:** November 04, 2019, 04:21:15 PM »

This is why I antique everything.

J. Talbert · « **Reply #6 on:** November 04, 2019, 04:43:09 PM »

Thanks David

David Rase · « **Reply #7 on:** November 04, 2019, 04:52:34 PM »

Quote from: Mike Brooks on November 04, 2019, 04:21:15 PM

This is why I antique everything.

This is why I never get any guns completed.

D. Taylor Sapergia · « **Reply #8 on:** November 04, 2019, 07:45:12 PM »

I like your tools David...better than the one I made. For polishing the cock or hammer, I took the butt end of a used up square file that I ground an additional four flats on, and cut off the tang so that it fit nicely into the square hole in the hammer. A gentle tap set the hammer on the tang and I clamped the file in my vise. I was aware that swaging the hole larger was a bad idea so I was judicious with how far I drove the hammer onto the tang.
I'm going to make tools like yours....thanks for the tip.

jerrywh · « **Reply #9 on:** November 04, 2019, 09:28:15 PM »

There are several threaded holes in the lock plate. You can thread rods into these holes to hold the lock plate as well. Then there will be nothing in the way.

Terry Reynolds · « **Reply #10 on:** November 05, 2019, 12:38:48 AM »

How much will a set cost me?

D. Taylor Sapergia · « **Reply #11 on:** November 05, 2019, 03:25:25 AM »

For the lock plate, I like using a set of pins in the top of the jaws of my engraving ball.

David Rase · « **Reply #12 on:** November 05, 2019, 04:04:54 AM »

Quote from: D. Taylor Sapergia on November 05, 2019, 03:25:25 AM

For the lock plate, I like using a set of pins in the top of the jaws of my engraving ball.

Great idea Taylor. I will have to do a check fit this evening on my engraving ball. Polishing out the last lock so I can case color harden it for Jerry's double flint fowler. Hope to shoot it this week and deliver it to him this weekend.
David

StevenV · « **Reply #13 on:** November 05, 2019, 04:11:40 AM »

Great idea David this is why I love this site , people willing to share and help. I will be using your holding method on my next lock. Steve

B.Barker · « **Reply #14 on:** November 05, 2019, 04:14:30 AM »

Dave you make the neatest tools for holding parts.

Stoner creek · « **Reply #15 on:** November 05, 2019, 05:14:30 AM »

I’ve said it before “Rase’s a genius”!

Ed Wenger · « **Reply #16 on:** November 05, 2019, 06:18:40 AM »

I agree, Genius! Thanks, David!

Ed

Dave B · « **Reply #17 on:** November 05, 2019, 08:01:36 AM »

What a great Idea, David. No question about there is his Genius Karma goin on there. The first time I met David was at the Carriage house at the state fair grounds in Corvallis OR. for the Oregon Gun makers fair in, I think "94" He was doing a presentation on the making of ram rod pipes and had a couple extra sets of swedging rods for the task. I got a set from him then and there. Still use the heck out of them. I really like his trigger guard filing Jig. I love his stuff. One of these days I am going to get one of his powder measures made like a scale pistol barrel. The breach tang slides back as a part of the square shank that sets the depth for the charge. Cool stuff David.

alacran · « **Reply #18 on:** November 05, 2019, 12:44:50 PM »

Great idea Dave I will make them as I need them. I think I will mill one flat on the rod. Might make it easier to clamp when I don't want the part to move.

David Rase · « **Reply #19 on:** November 05, 2019, 06:11:28 PM »

Quote from: Stoner creek on November 05, 2019, 05:14:30 AM

I’ve said it before “Rase’s a genius”!

Wayne,
Have you been hitting the Woodford Reserve again?
David

Shane A Gress · « **Reply #20 on:** November 05, 2019, 06:15:44 PM »

Square stock would work, I believe. Maybe get good clamping pressure in vise jaws?

TDW · « **Reply #21 on:** November 06, 2019, 01:48:35 AM »

Read this post this morning, made two of the simple tools this afternoon, currently using them!
Dave, you are a genius!
Tom

jerrywh · « **Reply #22 on:** November 06, 2019, 04:59:51 AM »

Dave has some really neat ideas for sure. One of his best ideas is the way he quenches his material when he case hardens. He has the best setup I have ever seen. I wished he would post a photo of this setup since he is going to case harden soon.

oldtravler61 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 06, 2019, 05:14:08 AM »

Dave is a genius. Thdres no doubt about it.....A little Bourbon in him an he can make anything...Except he has a little trouble sharpening thi gs after a couple glasses...ha ha ha or was that Brooks...? Heck I don't remember.. I was drinking...I plead the fifth...of something... Oldtravler

Ian Pratt · « **Reply #24 on:** November 06, 2019, 05:35:38 AM »

Hey man, there's a hair on the floor in that fourth picture. You might want to run a broom through there next time you're shooting pictures.

What are those jaw inserts/ pads ?

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