help Identify 2 rifles

[Mdlock]

Please any info and I can post more pics tomorrow if needed. Just have these few on phone.

[WESTbury]

It would really be helpful for you to take the perc. rifle with the nice patchbox off the wall to take pictures. Study what some others have posted on this forum as a guide to what pictures you should take

The other firearm would require the same procedure.

[Mdlock]

Will get down tomorrow and post good pics. Thank you I will look at what to photo.

[Elnathan]

I think the second gun is from the southern Arabian peninsula, or possibly the Indian coast nearest that area. That lump on the butt-end is, I believe, a regional distinctive. Possibly a restocked Enfield rifle-musket or something similar.

[WadePatton]

Pics: A good article is in the tutorials section.  But for quickie: use good lighting, but no direct sunlight, avoid flash photography, and mostly show gun segments-no more than 1/3 length at a time and top/sides/bottom views of every feature and especially any oddities. A quartering muzzle shot is nice for catching details there.  Thanks.

[Eric Krewson]

I take my gun pictures outside, later in the afternoon with the sun behind me.

[Mdlock]

new pics please help identify

[Mdlock]

[Mdlock]

Really its that rare that nobody knows what it is?

[mr. no gold]

Based on the 'arrowhead' filed detail on the trigger guard, I think that the gun may be a Western PA rifle. The patchbox has the 'Q 'finial and is very nice. Could be Huntingdon
County or west to Pittsburgh. With no name nor any similar known piece, it may prove difficult to track down a maker. The use of the 'Q' finial can be found in Chambersburg on westward to Bedford County and beyond. At this point asking who made it is akin to asking the question, 'how long is a piece of string?' Good luck with your search!

[Mdlock]

Thank you that's a start. will get better pics of Fowler.