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Offline sdilts

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English style hook breech
« on: December 19, 2019, 04:21:20 AM »
Where in the world can a person find an English style hook breech? I need one for a 1" barrel threaded 3/4-16.
I've checked all the usual suppliers and no one has them. Does anyone custom make these things?

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Re: English style hook breech
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2019, 08:46:52 AM »
Trackoftheowlf is the only place I know of that has them, or used to have them.
flint only

https://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/662/1
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Re: English style hook breech
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2019, 03:31:01 PM »
You're right, Track USED to have them.

Offline Bob Roller

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Re: English style hook breech
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2019, 04:03:05 PM »
Which breech?Flint or percussion? If it's a caplock you might
get a 1-1/8 inch and reduce it.Rod England makes the one that
Don Brown made and it has the 3/4x16 thread.They were about $100
and worth every cent. <rtengland864@aol.com> or 1-864-590-6718.
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Re: English style hook breech
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2019, 04:03:35 PM »
Hi,
The Rifle Shoppe has several versions and The last time I ordered from them the parts arrived within 2 weeks. They have historically accurate versions whereas few or none of the ones that are usually available from Track or others have a lug on the bottom for the cross pin. With respect to the hook, my advice is if your barrel has a well fitted breech plug and tang, cut the tang into a hook rather than install a different hooked plug.

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Re: English style hook breech
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2019, 04:24:42 PM »
I need a percussion style. I checked with Rod England about his 1 1/8" breech but he said he would not recommend using it because the tang cavity on top of the hook would get too thin.

I'll check with the Rifle Shoppe.

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Re: English style hook breech
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2019, 05:05:17 PM »
I need a percussion style. I checked with Rod England about his 1 1/8" breech but he said he would not recommend using it because the tang cavity on top of the hook would get too thin.

I'll check with the Rifle Shoppe.

I have an old (2002-2003)catalog that shows a Rigby Breech and tang.
The Number is 820. This particular breech requires an oddly shape lock plate.
They also show an Alex Henry breech and tang that is not finished that MIGHT
be reduceable to one inch.The number is 743.

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Re: English style hook breech
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2019, 05:57:22 PM »
Most patent breeches everyone supplied were Pete Allen castings and he quit making them and that’s the end of that.
Andover, Vermont

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Re: English style hook breech
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2019, 08:24:09 PM »
 What became of Pete Allen and the Allen Foundry? It appears that he was the supply source for a variety of parts.
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Re: English style hook breech
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2019, 11:42:31 PM »
What became of Pete Allen and the Allen Foundry? It appears that he was the supply source for a variety of parts.

He got old and quit and isn’t interested in selling off his setups for lost wax casting. That’s the scuttlebutt. 
Andover, Vermont

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Re: English style hook breech
« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2019, 01:13:12 AM »
What became of Pete Allen and the Allen Foundry? It appears that he was the supply source for a variety of parts.

He got old and quit and isn’t interested in selling off his setups for lost wax casting. That’s the scuttlebutt.
Didn't his daughter take over the foundry business?
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Re: English style hook breech
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2019, 07:37:30 PM »
This sort of thing amplifies the old saying about "All the eggs in one basket".
L&R offers a Hawken style breech and is/was it an Allan casting?
I made these from solid stock in Bill Large's shop but that was about 50 years
ago and other than set triggers,I have no interest in reviving that labor intensive
job.
Randy Grunkemeyer in Batesville,Indiana has made them for special jobs and does
good work.His phone# is 1-812-934-6412.
Good luck with your search.
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Re: English style hook breech
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2019, 02:39:34 AM »
Thanks Bob. I'll give Randy a call.

Steve