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Online Justin Urbantas

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Looking for English hook breech
« on: January 12, 2020, 10:39:27 PM »
Does anybody have an English style hook breech they'd sell? Looking for a 1 1/16" barrel with 3/4-16 threads. Something like this picture. Not the early style with the big hump. Looking  to pay around $45
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Offline albert

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2020, 05:03:33 AM »
I might have a set , can check tomorrow
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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2020, 06:27:07 PM »
Track of the Wolf has had those in their catalog.
If my rememberer was working I could tell you who Track gets their cast stuff from, but I just cannot bring that info up.  Rats, I have bought literally a ton of cast parts from him.  I think the owner's name is Pete, but that's no big help, is it.  Maybe someone else can step in and finish this.

Offline redheart

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2020, 11:45:13 PM »
Track normally carries one for a 1 1/8 barrel but their site says that they're out. :(

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2020, 12:25:11 AM »
Track of the Wolf has had those in their catalog.
If my rememberer was working I could tell you who Track gets their cast stuff from, but I just cannot bring that info up.  Rats, I have bought literally a ton of cast parts from him.  I think the owner's name is Pete, but that's no big help, is it.  Maybe someone else can step in and finish this.

Pete Allen is the name you're looking for.I have been told he has nearly quit or maybe has already.
The 1 and 1/16th is the odd man out now.One inch and one and one eighth are the ones now.
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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2020, 03:40:37 AM »
That's too bad. I may end up having to hacksaw and file one out of heavy angle iron.

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2020, 03:45:40 AM »
Get your hacksaw out.   You cant let Curtis show you up!

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2020, 06:44:02 PM »
I checked the ones that I have  , and it is for 1 1/8 bbl , and only have the back piece  , you could probably work it down , and take a regular plug and cut , and file the hook on it .
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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2020, 08:00:34 PM »
Hey Albert. Do you have a pic of it? It might work. Thanks

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2020, 09:08:12 PM »
Check your messages
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Online Justin Urbantas

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2020, 10:12:51 PM »
Sorry Albert, I don't see anything in my inbox

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2020, 02:51:14 AM »
PM me your  email address,  ill try that.
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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2020, 03:18:53 AM »
Get your hacksaw out.   You cant let Curtis show you up!

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2020, 03:22:13 AM »
Someone recently posted this neat breech, made from a section of octagonal barrel, and a piece of a bolt.  You could do the same...







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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2020, 03:28:28 AM »
Someone recently posted this neat breech, made from a section of octagonal barrel, and a piece of a bolt.  You could do the same...








And even easier re-working the existing breech plug  for the hook......if it's fitted well ; )

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2020, 07:22:25 AM »
Justin:  what kind of gun are you planning, without a hump in the standing breech?  That is such a cool feature.  When I did my documentary copy of the A. Verner rifle, I found it had a humped standing breech, so naturally, I incorporated that into my build.



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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2020, 07:50:36 AM »
PM me your  email address,  ill try that.
Hey Albert. My email is blacksmithju@hotmail.com 
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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2020, 07:52:55 AM »
Someone recently posted this neat breech, made from a section of octagonal barrel, and a piece of a bolt.  You could do the same...







That is pretty neat how they made it out of a barrel.

Taylor, this is the inspiration for my build. It won't be a bench copy, but very similar.
http://www.sitemason.com/page/gBGD96

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2020, 04:10:21 PM »
Big project; very cool. Iím sure youíve checked out Dave Personís tutorials on British fowlers. Great references.
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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2020, 08:17:16 PM »
That's a most worthwhile project Justin...I wish you joy of it.  The breech illustrated above (made from a section of barrel) would be perfect.  There's certainly lots of reference material in that link you posted.
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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2020, 08:42:36 PM »
THAT is SO simple it evades any normal lines of thinking.
A vertical mill would simplify it even more.

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2020, 02:59:13 AM »
The Gun Works Muzzleloading Emporium in Oregon appears to carry them in 1 1/8".
You'd only have to file off 1/8". They're $44, just go to gun parts and click on furniture.
I hope they haven't run out.
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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2020, 05:57:29 PM »
You might want to call the Gun Works first before placing your order online. I was going to order an English breech plug for a 1" barrel that I found on their site. It did not mention if they were in stock or not, so I called them and sure enough they were out of stock.

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2020, 06:12:47 PM »
You might want to call the Gun Works first before placing your order online. I was going to order an English breech plug for a 1" barrel that I found on their site. It did not mention if they were in stock or not, so I called them and sure enough they were out of stock.

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Re: Looking for English hook breech
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2020, 06:22:42 PM »
Thanks for all the help guys. I found what I needed.  It's a shame that Pete Allen isn't doing work anymore. It leaves a big gap in our parts needs.