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Offline borderdogs

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Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« on: January 20, 2020, 01:21:54 AM »
Hi Guys,
Here is a picture of my Plains rifles the one on top is a .58 Kit Carson Hawken the bottom one is A .50 caliber full stock Hawken.
Rob



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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2020, 04:37:29 AM »
OK!  Never really got very excited about the Hawken even though most in our shooting group seemed to be smitten and were something of Hawkenolics.  But then I read a great article in Muzzleloader a while back.  And then I ran upon the Browners of St. Louis.  AND THEN I met Mr. Hawken my very good friend Don S.

And Don showed us a "little" St. Louis squirrel rifle that he personally  made.  And the walls came tumbling down.  Super little rifle in every way.  38 cal with a choked barrel by J. Coodgen (sp?). The barrel is about 37 inches.  Wonderful Bob Roller lock and maybe triggers but not sure about the triggers.  GRAND full stock maple beautifully finished and a silver box of high style.  I think Don said he did not engrave the box however.  We even have a photo of Don and I when he entrusted it to our future care.  Love it!









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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2020, 05:54:15 AM »
Here is my collection of plains/Hawken rifles the top two I posted in the first picture the third one is a John Browning .50 caliber and the bottom one is a .32 caliber Hawken squirrel rifle which I am still working on developing a load. I had some problems getting this rifle to shoot and in another post on black powder shooting I was asking for help on the problems I was having. I finally got that worked out and its shooting fine now.

A little back ground on the first two both were made by Brant Selb the full stock one I just got, the Kit Carson I got about three years ago. It took a bit to get this rifle to shoot right not the rifles fault but the shooters. I can shoot a group of around 1 1/2" at 50 yards I have put around 100 to 150 rounds through that rifle and would like to take it elk hunting at some point. Before that I would need more work with that rifle. The John Browning I have had for around 12 years or so and I had a weak mainspring problem with that rifle when I got it. I was able to buy a second spring and it shoots fine.

I like the simplicity of the plains rifles and how practical they are. At some point I would like to build a full stock flint in .50 caliber.
Rob



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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2020, 08:29:16 PM »
Here's a pair of .62 cal. rifles.  The percussion is mine and I built the flint rifle for a buddy.  Since this photo, the flint rifle was lost in a fire, and I case hardened in colours the hardware of my rifle.





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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2020, 09:56:12 PM »
That beautiful flintlock gun lost in a fire.The only "positive" thing about that sorry event is
that at least the owner knows what happened to it which is "better"that loss to a low life
thief.My shop was broken into and some powder,lead and a partly finished mini creedmoor
40 caliber rifle was stolen.I am 99% sure I know who it was but can't prove it.

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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2020, 10:21:27 PM »
That's too bad about that flintlock I like both of those rifles Taylor but I think the flint is my favorite.
Rob

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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2020, 03:17:13 AM »



this is my 1st attempt at posting a photo heres my hawken long way to go.

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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2020, 03:36:23 AM »
Adam:  they all start like that or similarly, with a board.
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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2020, 04:09:25 AM »
Here's a Hawken I made for a friend back in the late 80's. It is walnut and I tried to add a little T. Campbell influence to it. The late Murrell Amos engraved and checkered the rifle. It has a .62 cal and an interchangeable. 50 cal. barrel.






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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2020, 08:42:21 AM »
Here's one I built for myself in 1980, with a Dimick flair.  It now resides in Finland.





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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2020, 06:09:34 PM »
Here's one I built for myself in 1980, with a Dimick flair.  It now resides in Finland.






You do build some fine looking rifles Taylor!

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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2020, 07:42:42 PM »
Love that Dimick Taylor!I like Hawkens,but love the Trade Guns.Not everyone and his mother have them!Since I am not near as talented as this forum's gun builders,I can't wait for a Kibler Hawken or Trade Gun!

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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2020, 07:45:44 PM »
Meant to say Plains rifles instead of  Trade Rifles in my post.

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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2020, 07:49:25 PM »


I'm not sure if the top one qualifies as a plains rifle.  It's an original and I don't know its history. The barrel had an under rib at one time.
It's a .69 cal with an 1 3/8" barrel. The sights are replacements.

The second is my .58 Hawken full stock.

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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2020, 09:57:34 PM »
Here's a pair Taylor built.






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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2020, 03:02:29 AM »
taylor  you build some beautiful rifles, how about the pistol grip hawken.
that qualifies in my book
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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2020, 04:45:20 AM »
I really love those full stock flint Hawken rifles they look just right to me. I think a full stock flint might be my next Hawken rifle......
Rob

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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2020, 06:03:15 AM »
Don’t got one yet but today, I sent off a down payment to Brant Selb for one of his Hawkens. Should be about an 18 month wait, but from my readings it should be worth it.

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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2020, 05:23:02 PM »
My personal Hawken made in 1985. I carried it in the Rockies in the same year. It has a .60 cal. and an interchangeable .47 cal barrel. Too old to make that trip again it was a fine hunt. Tim Cosby






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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2020, 09:16:22 PM »
You should search "Herb" a member here he's made several

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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2020, 04:59:59 AM »
Posting these for blienemann





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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2020, 10:02:44 PM »
Tim- well done on that stock wood choice! WOW!
Daryl

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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #22 on: January 24, 2020, 02:35:24 AM »
Here's a .50 I custom made for Rachel.

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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2020, 02:52:59 AM »
Man, I need to bite the bullet and get another one of these. Thanks for posting all...

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Re: Lets see your Hawken/Plains Rifle
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2020, 05:43:08 AM »
That's a neat rifle Herb,
Rob