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Offline Nhgrants

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Diameter of Precut Patches
« on: February 02, 2020, 10:40:23 PM »
For those of you who Precut your patches for a 54 caliber ball, what diameter are making the patches?
I was thinking 1" or 1 1/8".  Thanks

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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2020, 10:42:56 PM »
If I was going to do that, I'd just measure a muzzle-cut patch, and maybe make them a little bit bigger to compensate for imperfect centering.  Or measure the hole in the patch material.

I know someone will come along with a measurement soon enough, but in case they don't.
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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2020, 10:48:38 PM »
For 54 cal-1&1/8 is too small. Wade has the right idea, save a cut at the muzzle patch and add a little. I have had some luck finding used hole saws at thrift/pawn shops to make into patch cutters. Just my way of doing the job.   :)

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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2020, 12:16:32 AM »
I have always used precut and pre-oiled patches in both my .54 rifle and pistol. They are 1 3/8 inches. My dear wife is kind enough to cut them into squares with her rotary cutter. I then nip the corners to make octagon shaped patch. Doesn't help or hurt in loading or accuracy I'm just liking them that way. Just before I go shooting I hang as many patches as I think I'll need from a small wire on my bag. No fussing around for patches and quicker than cutting at the muzzle (both are historically correct).
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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2020, 04:45:51 PM »
I mark mine with a circle template and then sit and sloooowly cut them round.  My friend cuts or tears his square, and shoots my pants off all the time!   Been using 1 1/4" dia for 54.

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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2020, 05:00:53 PM »
I mark mine with a circle template and then sit and sloooowly cut them round.  My friend cuts or tears his square, and shoots my pants off all the time!   Been using 1 1/4" dia for 54.

It must be embarrassing for your pants to fall off at a shoot.

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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2020, 06:44:07 PM »
I do what Mike does.  Cut them square and cut the corners.  A rolling cutter works well.  Tried the drill press cutter but there was too much waste for me.  I bought some pre-cuts and measured them.  Then made mine a little larger.  I can use the rolling cutter and mat on the kitchen table in the air conditioning. 
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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2020, 06:55:19 PM »
I also square cut mine and just shootem as is

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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2020, 07:36:16 PM »
If I was going to do that, I'd just measure a muzzle-cut patch, and maybe make them a little bit bigger to compensate for imperfect centering.  Or measure the hole in the patch material.

I know someone will come along with a measurement soon enough, but in case they don't.

Do that.   Then consider, given the hassle of cutting nice round patches, just continue cutting each one at the muzzle.  :)
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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2020, 08:17:41 AM »
I've never measured the T/C brand pre-lubed patches (allegedly for .50 and .54 caliber) I have for my .54 T/C Hawken.

All I can say is they are "Too Big". Half the size would probably be sufficient. There is no reason for the patch to cover 100% of the ball, with excess material bunched up on the top of the ball.
I would not be surprised of these patches are properly sized for a .75 caliber.

I'll be getting smaller patches before I head to the range again.

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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2020, 09:44:50 AM »
I like my pre cut patches to come up past the equator of the ball but not over the top if I can center them when loading but that sometimes is hard to do when your fingers are greasy, cold or in a hurry or your working with a small cal. ball.

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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2020, 08:32:12 AM »
So, the circumference of a 54 ball is 1.7".  Looks like 1.6 or 1.7 wide patches would work with a 54 and probably just fine with a 50 with it's 1.57 circumference.
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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2020, 10:06:22 PM »
I use patches cut with a 1 1/2" arch punch in my .69 & 20 bore. They are larger than needed in anything smaller.
Seems to me, my 1 1/8" arch punch was what I used in the .58 down to .50 cal.
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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2020, 10:55:37 PM »



1 1/4” arch punch works well in my .54 and .50 as well.
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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2020, 11:08:47 PM »
I use a one and five sixteenths Osbourne arch punch.
It is exactly the size of pre cuts that you buy from places like Track of the Wolf.

Offline Nhgrants

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Re: Diameter of Precut Patches
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2020, 02:15:19 AM »
Thanks all, I cut a bunch at 1 1/4 and will see how the work.
Also I have 535 mold coming. Hoping that will tighten the groupng up a little.