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Offline backsplash75

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Re: General Daniel Morgan's rifle
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2020, 06:35:25 PM »
Thank you for that image. I showed my powder horn to an "Expert" and his comment was that the horn/bag set didn't become popular until after the Rev War so my horn must be a later commemorative horn. I just didn't realize the horn/bag set went that far back.

Al

Al,
A few years back I would have been of the same opinion as your expert. There are a couple other scattered references (1777 Georgia troops doing that in Elberts OB and the 1807 Brant image )  but the practice seems to have been generally much more popular later than the Revolutionary War.
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Re: General Daniel Morgan's rifle
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2020, 09:08:56 PM »
My comment on "experts" was more to the fact that they usually say something negative when they don't know something. What my "expert" could have said was that he hadn't been made aware of any bag/horn sets that were Rev War or earlier. Instead he declared my horn a commemorative horn. He just didn't know but as an "expert" he had to say something, so he said something negative. This problem with "experts" is seen on this site a lot. That's why I really liked your image of the bag/horn set.
Also, the ten companies that Congress authorized were all riflemen and a bag/horn set would not be out of the question.
Al

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Re: General Daniel Morgan's rifle
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2020, 08:48:57 PM »
A deposition taken in March 1766 describes a gun and horn/bag set. This can be found in the Archives of Maryland, volume 32, page 129:



Complete volume:

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=umn.31951d02897643w&view=1up&seq=152

Check out: The Lost Village of Christian's Spring
https://christiansbrunn.web.lehigh.edu/
And: The Earliest Moravian Work in the Mid-Atlantic: A Guide
https://www.moravianhistory.org/product-page/moravian-activity-in-the-mid-atlantic-guidebook

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Re: General Daniel Morgan's rifle
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2020, 01:31:53 AM »
And this reference even earlier, from the New York Gazette, Sept. 10., 1753:


Check out: The Lost Village of Christian's Spring
https://christiansbrunn.web.lehigh.edu/
And: The Earliest Moravian Work in the Mid-Atlantic: A Guide
https://www.moravianhistory.org/product-page/moravian-activity-in-the-mid-atlantic-guidebook

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Re: General Daniel Morgan's rifle
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2020, 03:06:13 AM »
Those two citations are interesting, but given the free wheeling nature of 18th century punctuation they may just be lacking commas and not specifically denoting attached bags and horns.

This one certainly nails the attached mode.

Collections of the Georgia Historical Society, Volume 5
2d Georgia Battalion Elbert's Orderly book

Regimental Orders, 2nd Battalion
12th July, 1777.

"...The regiment to parade precisely at four o'clock this afternoon, each man with as much loose powder in his Horns as will make Nine rounds, with black moss [aka Spanish Moss] for wadding;
 the Colo. can have no doubt but that every man in the Regiment has a powder Horn slung to his pouch after so many repeated orders for the Purpose, as the Companies are all informed they are in future when every under arms to appear in them..."

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Re: General Daniel Morgan's rifle
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2022, 08:21:29 PM »
My comment on "experts" was more to the fact that they usually say something negative when they don't know something. What my "expert" could have said was that he hadn't been made aware of any bag/horn sets that were Rev War or earlier. Instead he declared my horn a commemorative horn. He just didn't know but as an "expert" he had to say something, so he said something negative. This problem with "experts" is seen on this site a lot. That's why I really liked your image of the bag/horn set.
Also, the ten companies that Congress authorized were all riflemen and a bag/horn set would not be out of the question.
Al

Hello

I've been trying to reach you.

Would you be willing to post some images of the documents you have?

Adamson Tannehill is a very important figure & some of what you have may not have been put online yet.


Thanks