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Offline eggwelder

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Early English Trade musket
« on: February 28, 2020, 02:58:11 PM »
Got this in a trade. Stock broken, and missing a couple of chunks. Original lock and serpent missing. Lock bolt holes enlarged.
Has 6 small nails in the buttplate and on on top of th comb. Trigger is loose. “Ramrod” is a dowel. Pipes are ribbed.
About 69 cal. Bore is apparently good, have not checked yet.  Barrel is about 48 inch long.
Not sure how much it is worth as it sits, thinking about rebuilding it.
It came with a “lock Kit” . The circled fox does not match anything i`ve seen from Caywood, TOTW, Sitting fox. Maybe rifle shoppe, but they don`t have pictures. It’s a bit smaller than the existing mortise, but if i`m adding wood, it won`t matter.



Offline rich pierce

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Re: Early English Trade musket
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2020, 04:17:45 PM »
Has the look of a Northwest gun all right. Cool piece of fur trade history. By the big bushing (vent liner) it may have been percussion at some point. Or possibly always percussion. What wood does the stock seem made of? Any proof marks?
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Re: Early English Trade musket
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2020, 04:48:48 PM »
The wood seems very light. Someone glued it but poorly. Sprint an hour last night scraping old glue and getting the cracked off piece to fit better. Still lots of fun work there....
Proof marks

Rear sight and “LONDON”

Circle stamp

Brass vent

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Re: Early English Trade musket
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2020, 05:11:58 PM »
Not a proof mark expert but it looks like a Wilson all right. Cool project.
Andover, Vermont

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Re: Early English Trade musket
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2020, 06:32:51 PM »
If restored properly that gun could have considerable value. If botched it will be nearly worthless. If you don't have the necessary skills you might consider hiring somebody that does. If you do have the skills go  for it.
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Re: Early English Trade musket
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2020, 08:12:56 PM »
Any chance of getting a better look at the rear sight? 
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Re: Early English Trade musket
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2020, 12:52:01 AM »
Rear sight pics


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Re: Early English Trade musket
« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2020, 03:06:15 PM »
Ron, I take it that means something to you?

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Re: Early English Trade musket
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2020, 07:31:39 PM »
Now I don't feel so bad about putting a rear sight on mine...lol.

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Re: Early English Trade musket
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2020, 08:14:20 PM »
I don`t know if the rear sight is original or not, but it shoulders and the sights line up like a dream, absolutely no effort required. Am really considering a restock and a barrel liner if it requires one.

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Re: Early English Trade musket
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2020, 03:42:25 AM »
See reply #4
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Re: Early English Trade musket
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2020, 05:30:16 AM »
Some of the parts may have some value, I`m not hearing any offers.
It’s already a restock, and while the new stock was very serviceable, it is not well done. I have not found an example of an undefined lock panel anywhere. Archaeological and historical notes indicate North west guns always inlet the serpent, and if this one ever had a serpent, there is NO evidence. The barrel does not match timeframe with trigger guard. The buttplate matches, but maybe not.
An original lock will cost upwards of 1K, an original serpent to the period will cost around 600 to 800. Those are US dollars. Not CDN.

If someone wants to make a trade - cool. I`m not doing anything with it for now. Looks good on the wall.
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Re: Early English Trade musket
« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2020, 06:14:09 AM »
My offer of a new barrel in trade stands.
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Re: Early English Trade musket
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2020, 01:54:11 PM »
Rich, PM inbound