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Offline D. Taylor Sapergia

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Andrew Verner pistol
« on: April 01, 2020, 08:50:47 PM »
In 2011 I built a Verner rifle for myself, sold it to my brother, and recently traded it back from him.  Soon after I finished the rifle, I started a complimentary pistol, but never finished it.  That was eight years ago.  So now that I have my favourite rifle back, I decided it was time to finish up the handgun.
It is built around a Getz .50 cal x 13" swamped barrel and a Stan Hollinbaugh lock.  Reference material came from three sources, two of which I cannot now find.  So I relied almost exclusively on a pair of photos from Johnston's " rifles and pistols 1750 - 1850". 
The inlays, rod pipes, nose cap, butt cap, and barrel slides I made myself from sheet stock.  The star and eagle are 999 silver.  The trigger guard I bought only a  couple weeks ago here on this site.  The stock is a piece of BC maple from our local hardwood purveyor.  Wood is stained with tannic acid, and ferric nitrate, finished with Circa 1850 Tung Oil.



























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Offline Jim Spray

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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2020, 08:56:46 PM »
Very nice as always Taylor!! Nice that you got the old favorite back!

Jim

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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2020, 09:00:44 PM »
What a great looking piece and congrats on getting it,s mate back. Should make a super pair.

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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2020, 09:06:42 PM »
What can I say- lovely. Very - nicely - done.  :) I've been wondering what you've been up to this winter
while I was 'away' and on quarantine.
Complete with the shield and double headed partridge.
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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2020, 12:34:02 AM »
 That is Really nice looking, "Sexy" iif you will. Look forward to seeing how it shoots.

   Tim

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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2020, 12:46:41 AM »
Great looking pistol. Now you need to show the rifle and pistol together so we can really drool all over the keyboard. :P
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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2020, 01:08:11 AM »
Beautifully done. It really looks great. I agree, I'd like to see it with the matching rifle.
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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2020, 01:12:52 AM »
Very nice Taylor.

Can you show it with the rifle?

Thanks,
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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2020, 04:48:03 AM »
Beautiful  work!
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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2020, 02:03:25 PM »
Hi Taylor,
That is a very lovely, graceful pistol.  I love the double headed eagle.

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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2020, 02:18:41 PM »
Very nice Taylor.  Early American Flintlocks by Hartzler and Whisker has 4 photos of a pistol attributed to Verner. Though that pistol does not have  the embellishments of your pistol, the architecture is quite similar. Again very nice.
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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2020, 02:23:57 PM »
 Taylor; very nice! been working on mine but nothing like this, really nice.

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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2020, 03:45:30 PM »
Nice. I like the way your sideplate fills the panel. I also like the design and size of the silver inlays.  Is Hollinbaugh still in business? I have one of his locks  with a chipped sear.
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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2020, 03:47:02 PM »
 As always, beautiful work, Taylor.
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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2020, 04:23:03 PM »
Taylor, another impeccable creation from you! Just beautiful.
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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2020, 04:23:28 PM »
If there was no one listed as maker, I could tell it was Taylor's by that signature, beautiful finish.  A pistol I'd love to own.   God Bless,   Marc

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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2020, 04:40:56 PM »
  Dang Taylor  you just keep turning out impressive work
time an time again....  Oldtravler

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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2020, 07:46:20 PM »
I appreciate all of the kind words lads...but now I will need to go and buy some new hats...my old ones won't fit anymore.

In my reference material, there are two pistols by Verner that are listed as single pistols, but they are identical as far as I can tell.  I suspect they were a pair that became separated at some time in their history.  The originals were .54 cal smoothbores and there was no rear sight, but being the competitive shooter I am, that wouldn't work for me.  I had John Getz make mine .50 cal and rifled with a 1:25" twist, and I installed a rear sight in the Bucks/Lehigh Co. traditional style.  I can use the same ball in both my rifle and now my pistol.

I hadn't even finished browning the barrel, rear sight, plug and trigger plate, for the pistol,  when I started my next build.  I don't have any trouble staying at home these days.  It's a .25 Cal squirrel rifle in the style of Thomas Allison from Western PA.  A few years ago, I bought a Rayle barrel inlet into a nice piece of colourful wallynut, from Chris Laubach..I'm sure he wondered what ever became of that set.  That barrel is almost an inch at the breech, swamped and 44" long.  It will not be a light rifle.  The first thing I did when the wood and barrel arrived was to make two 1/4" ramrods for it, and bought a 5# box of .250 buckshot.  That's about 1500 rounds that I don't have to cast.  It should get me through the summer.  Unfortunately squirrels here are fur bearing protected animals, unless you're a trapper, so I'll have to satisfy myself with virtual squirrel hunting (steel).

I'll take some pics of the two Verner creations together and post them later today.

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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2020, 11:08:45 PM »
A handsome pair indeed, nicely done Taylor

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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2020, 01:00:55 AM »
Oh yeah - that pair makes a 'couple'. They are a "good looking" couple as well.

I'm really tickled you are making the .25 now - 'bout time.  :D
Daryl

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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2020, 01:40:19 AM »
Thanks Taylor for the extra pix.
Definitely a wonderful pair.

Jeff
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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2020, 02:28:33 AM »
Outstanding!

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Re: Andrew Verner pistol
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2020, 04:01:45 PM »
Wow, nice pair! I usually only say that to women.....
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