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Mdlock

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Help I found a mark
« on: April 04, 2020, 07:07:12 AM »
Help identify I found a mark it has a Joseph Golcher lock





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Offline Tanselman

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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2020, 07:20:49 AM »
If your rifle has a maker's initials or name on the barrel, you will find it several inches behind the rear sight on the top barrel flat. If there is something there and you can't read it, post a picture and we can probably help you. The name can be either engraved, or stamped, into the barrel iron. The fine marks you see immediately behind the rear sight appear to be old file marks that have been worn down.  Shelby Gallien
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2020, 07:29:42 AM »
That is what the top pic is the mark is worn but someone should be able to identify.
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Offline louieparker

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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2020, 02:15:35 PM »
mdock I will offer a guess.. Those are punch marks to swell or tighten the rear sight..LP
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2020, 02:34:59 PM »
Probably seeing things but it looks like 3 lines of script on the barrel
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2020, 02:39:45 PM »
Mdock now I see what Shelby was referring to. Possible script ??  Only way I know to tell would involve a light cleaning of the barrel leaving the color in the lower cut area..Would destroy the finish with not a great chance f success.
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2020, 03:00:25 PM »
Take a few more photos of that area with a low raking light.  What is possibly there is being washed out by the direct on light glare. 
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2020, 04:54:45 PM »
I highly doubt a PA rifle maker is going to engrave 3 lines of tiny script ACROSS his barrel just below the sight. If you are going to analyze those scratches, you might as well analyze the similar line of scratches running between the two round punch marks on the base of the sight. Shelby Gallien
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2020, 05:12:27 PM »
I'm with Shelby on this one.  Scratches. It might be helpful , if you are trying to identify  the maker to show  clear pictures of both sides of the rifle from just in front of the lock back.

Sorry, I just saw this rifle was discussed  on another thread.
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2020, 08:11:20 PM »
There is definitely something there in fancy script. It's going to take a microscope to make it out though.
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2020, 08:14:02 PM »
I put the pic in lightroom and photoshop and couldn't pull any more info out of it. A pic with cross light would help. What are the marks/script, 1/8" tall? It seems most likely scratches or a stamp if that small.
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2020, 08:35:02 PM »
I can imagine that being the results of a bloody finger print from long ago. Seems to be on the sight and barrel at a spot near where some guns balance.
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2020, 11:17:50 PM »
I will get it down and take several pics and post best one was thinking of rubbing pencil on a piece of paper over it too. It's not like I dont have the time. Right?
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2020, 11:42:18 PM »
Definitely appears to be 3 lines of script on my 24" monitor.  The top line appears to end in d l and perhaps e.
Enlarging it does not help much. You (I) can click on it twice for enlargements.
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2020, 11:50:30 PM »
I agree with Shelby. It would appear to have 3 lines of script, but if you compare it to the sight - I don't think so.

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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2020, 03:37:56 AM »
It's instructions on how to adjust the sight!  ;D

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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2020, 04:29:50 AM »
Quote from: JTR on April 05, 2020, 03:37:56 AM
It's instructions on how to adjust the sight!  ;D

John

That is a good one, I like that.
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2020, 02:14:56 PM »


 You might try dusting it with talc/chalk; wipe gently.
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2020, 04:44:01 PM »
Enlarged the picture.
Appears on the left just below the sight  1885 or 1888.  Some other what appears to be engraving.

To bring it out you could also get some White Out, from office supply store.  It comes of easy with WD-40 or alcohol
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2020, 06:54:23 PM »
John - always entertaining :)

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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2020, 10:08:32 PM »
I'm trying hopefully this helps a little









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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2020, 10:12:50 PM »
there is something there, but short of taking it to the FBI firearms test lab you'll probably never find out what it says.
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2020, 10:14:08 PM »
I don't want to be a spoil sport, but those marks look an awful lot like the file marks on the sight base.
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2020, 11:25:41 PM »
Take a piece of copper & lightly rub the area.  This should give you a idea if it is engraved or file marks. Rub the area lightly. Good luck.
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Re: Help I found a mark
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2020, 12:56:25 AM »
I will do it tonight. Lightly.
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