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Offline Mike Brooks

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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2020, 11:47:39 PM »
Apply copious quantities of hand (in this case finger) sanitizer, it will take your mind off the blood.

By the way what size bit do you use for finger drilling? Is that covered in the tutorial?  ;D
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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2020, 12:02:51 AM »
A sixteenth Mike?  That's about like a staple!

A few years back, I was drilling rivet holes in an aluminum box for my airplane.  Big macho guys like me don't need a backer when drilling a few rivet hole...  Using a pneumatic drill that spun at about 26,000 rpm, I put a 1/8" hole clean through my left index finger, going side to side.  Wrapped it in duct tape till I could get some antibiotic, and when I sprayed the "in" hole, the stuff squirted from the "out" hole!  Really didn't hurt a lot, but like you, that airplane needed some sacrificial blood.  Flew better after that, too.
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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2020, 01:05:59 AM »
 Well on monday I was ripping a piece of maple on my table saw to make some loading blocks. It didn't turn out to well for me, thirty-two stitches later on my four fingers of my right hand.

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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2020, 01:59:27 AM »
Well on monday I was ripping a piece of maple on my table saw to make some loading blocks. It didn't turn out to well for me, thirty-two stitches later on my four fingers of my right hand.

Good grief, glad you didn't lose a finger or worse. I can't tell you how many times I've done something like that, farm work puts me in the position to get hurt more often than i'd like. Just like woodwork. Nothing like really hurting a hand to slow your roll....

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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2020, 02:30:55 AM »
Well on monday I was ripping a piece of maple on my table saw to make some loading blocks. It didn't turn out to well for me, thirty-two stitches later on my four fingers of my right hand.

Ouch! Hope your hand recovers and happy to hear you didn't have to have anything re-attached. I teach manufacturing processes at the university and each semester I have around 100 students that learn to use the table saw in my introductory classes. It gets my vote for one of the more dangerous woodworking tools. We have now switched to SawStops and currently have five in the building where I teach, with a sixth being added for our construction area. I sleep a whole lot easier knowing that these tools are a bit safer. If you continue using tablesaws after your recovery a SawStop is well worth having. 

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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #30 on: April 25, 2020, 03:02:18 AM »
Mike do you give blood for every gun or just a select few. I know you gave on mine #343. I was just wondering :-\
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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #31 on: April 25, 2020, 04:23:51 AM »
Mike,
    My dad was a machine shop foreman for 40 years.  When some one would cut themselves and come to him for band aids or a trip to urgent care his standard line was "all that we ask is that you do a good job, giving blood is totally optional". Luckily in those 40 years no one was ever maimed or hurt badly. We had a German woman that had spent time in a concentration camp run a 10-32 powered tap through her hand. She unscrewed it herself and never broke a sweat! Be well!

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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #32 on: April 25, 2020, 03:19:25 PM »
Well on monday I was ripping a piece of maple on my table saw to make some loading blocks. It didn't turn out to well for me, thirty-two stitches later on my four fingers of my right hand.
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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #33 on: April 25, 2020, 03:20:36 PM »
Mike do you give blood for every gun or just a select few. I know you gave on mine #343. I was just wondering :-\
I try to avoid it, but it happens more often than I'd like. A little crazy glue gel fixed me right up.
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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2020, 04:44:32 PM »
Maybe you should put a plug in it! I just touched the end of my middle finger on the bandsaw blade the other day and didn't think anything of it, but now I notice it hurts to type with it. Oh well! I think I have given a little blood to everyone of my builds. Just a little, never needed stiches!
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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2020, 05:13:12 PM »
Can you do it again and You-Tube it Mike?


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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2020, 07:23:09 PM »
Can you do it again and You-Tube it Mike?


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OK, give me a minute....
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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #37 on: April 26, 2020, 06:19:39 AM »
Mike,
For all the new guys on here that could learn from your technique, could you explain a little about how you went about patching all those worm holes. Things like how you prepared the spot to patch on the stock, how you cut the patch, how you stained the stock area and patch before gluing (I assume!) and anything we might be missing. We all are going to have to patch something, usually sooner than later! Thanks and looking forward to hearing your words. Take care of that finger and watch out for those drills!
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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2020, 06:34:21 AM »
Holy Cow!!  I’ll never complain again!!!

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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #39 on: April 26, 2020, 02:44:26 PM »
Mike,
For all the new guys on here that could learn from your technique, could you explain a little about how you went about patching all those worm holes. Things like how you prepared the spot to patch on the stock, how you cut the patch, how you stained the stock area and patch before gluing (I assume!) and anything we might be missing. We all are going to have to patch something, usually sooner than later! Thanks and looking forward to hearing your words. Take care of that finger and watch out for those drills!
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I first cut a strip of wood maybe 3 /16" thick by a little wider than my chisel, or a little wider if you need to cover more are in a few places. Then I get an approximate measurement of how long a particular patch should be and cut it to length. I then file draft on all sides of the plug. Then lay it over the spot and draw around it like you would any inlay. I then remove the wood then fit and try the patch until it goes to depth, probably a little more than 1/16" or so. Next I stain the hole and the edges of the plug with the satin I'm going to use on the stock. Apply crazy glue gel to the inside edges of the hole and put in the the plug, sometimes tapping it in with a little hammer. Usually they fit really tight and will stay put. If you get one that is a little wobbly  I'll wrap some electrical tape around it. You could also use epoxy , but the drying time is longer and I don't have the patience to sit around and watch glue dry. You could  When dry just file/rasp down to the level of the stock and sand out a little. The glue doesn't take long to set. You can get loads of entertainment glueing your fingers together too. I now have a sideplate on it and Tang carving through all those plugs on top. It's beginning to look like it's all going to work out.
 This gun should be done towards the end of the week...Gotta go out to look at some walnut logs this AM, then split fire wood this PM so no worky today.
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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2020, 11:42:16 PM »
Mike can you tell me how to plug or add flesh to my thumb index finger and middles finger. My table saw and planer hate me. 
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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2020, 01:07:28 AM »
Mike can you tell me how to plug or add flesh to my thumb index finger and middles finger. My table saw and planer hate me.
Crazy glue works good for reattaching body bits.
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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2020, 03:04:16 AM »
A sixteenth Mike?  That's about like a staple!

A few years back, I was drilling rivet holes in an aluminum box for my airplane.  Big macho guys like me don't need a backer when drilling a few rivet hole...  Using a pneumatic drill that spun at about 26,000 rpm, I put a 1/8" hole clean through my left index finger, going side to side.  Wrapped it in duct tape till I could get some antibiotic, and when I sprayed the "in" hole, the stuff squirted from the "out" hole!  Really didn't hurt a lot, but like you, that airplane needed some sacrificial blood.  Flew better after that, too.

Been there, done that. I thought it stung a mite. ;)

Oh yea- I second the crazy glue- in my case, it's model airplane CA- works well and comes in ultra-thin, thin, medium and gap filling. PS - don't use the kicker on cuts or holes in the flesh- that REALLY stings.
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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2020, 03:44:14 AM »
One of my very first days working in the machine shop, an older apprentice smashed his thumbnail pretty badly. There was a huge blood blister under the nail pushing up against the nail, and down against the nerves. He wanted to go to the hospital, but the older guys convinced him to drill a small hole through the nail with a  #50, or so drill bit. They told him it would take a while, and would hurt like #%^ until he broke through the nail,  but to be patient and stick with it, because the doctors were going to do the same thing, only he would have no control over the pain. So he went at and everyone drifted away back to what they were doing before. Only problem was, he got impatient, chucked that little drill bit in a micro drill press, and you all know what happened next!!! This scream echoes throughout the shop, we all rush over to where he was, and there he is holding his left hand with his right, and a broken #50 drill bit is sticking out of both sides of his thumb. Of course, the drill bit caught the underside of his thumb nail when it broke through, the blood spurted up all over the place, the bit drilled right through his thumb, and he snapped the bit in shock at what he had done to himself. And since he was on an apprenticeship program with the state, now he REALLY had to go to the hospital.

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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2020, 06:15:03 AM »
Pretty sure we all have things we had to learn the hard way. I was heading up a stock for an unmentionable 19th century rifle, with the buttstock in my vise, taking cross grain paring cuts with a razor sharp 1/4” chisel. The stock slipped in the vise, and I put the chisel completely through my left index finger, between the knuckle and first joint. I remember looking at the chisel, and my hand, and thinking “this really should be hurting more than it does...”.  Doc at the ER fixed it with, you guessed it, superglue and a steri-strip.

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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2020, 06:23:51 AM »
My mother was an old time ER nurse, thus more pragmatic and perhaps a bit gentler. After I smashed my thumb she sat me at the kitchen table and heated a paper clip on the stove burner; it melted through my nail instantly, and in less than a second the pressure was gone but wiping down the ceiling from the blood splatter took way more heroics. :o

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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2020, 05:32:41 PM »
I second Daryl's comment about the kicker - that is worse than the wound!

I think most of us have had either very close calls with the sharp things, or actually sacrificed body parts to them.  The three main fingers on my right hand are all the same length, and I don't have to fuss with trimming the nail on the middle finger.  Left hand has a number of scars, holes, whatever.  And thick "super glue" ought to come in a bottle decorated with Superman's logo.  Great stuff, keep it close.  But DO NOT use the kicker on it!  A bit of plain old water sprayed lightly will set it quicker, but it WILL get hot in the process.
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Re: 'ol Plugs (the gun, not the politician.)
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2020, 09:38:44 PM »
Mike can you tell me how to plug or add flesh to my thumb index finger and middles finger. My table saw and planer hate me.
Crazy glue works good for reattaching body bits.

I saw Bear Grylls cauterize a cut with gun powder. I bet that’s a little worse than the kicker!!  Definitely get you up and moving in a hurry :o

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« Reply #48 on: April 28, 2020, 05:07:31 AM »
  Just do what my wife says... " Wine is to women like duck tape is to men...it fixes everything...cheers..Oldtravler

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« Reply #49 on: April 28, 2020, 06:30:25 AM »
  Just do what my wife says... " Wine is to women like duck tape is to men...it fixes everything...cheers..Oldtravler

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