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Offline runastav

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Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« on: April 30, 2020, 06:38:14 PM »
Hi Guys! Planning build a sort of duell pistol With this original belgian made brass barrel and a original flintlock think made by a belgian gunsmith. The barrel is 8-1/2"  and swamped.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2020, 09:42:51 PM »
I saw Barrels like this on Ebay some years ago. If I were you I would check up on the proof marks to see if they were proofed. Those barrels are most likely made of bronze rather than Brass which is good because Bronze is much stronger than brass and I don't think it age hardens. at least as much. I would proof them at about 75 grns. of fffg and a patched rb, Or 50 grns of fffg and 2 prbs. twice.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2020, 12:22:40 AM »
I have the same "new" old stock barrel that I got from Track of the Wolf many years ago. Has the same very low touch hole. I figured I'd have to plug the existing hole and redrill. Will be interested to see what you do with it.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2020, 12:38:25 AM »
I suspect the low touch hole was so the main spring of a large martial lock would clear the bottom of the barrel.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2020, 12:58:57 AM »
Hi,
The vent hole was drilled low so the mainspring could clear the rapid taper of the barrel at the breech.  Also keep in mind, our notion of locating the touch hole at the "sunrise" position relative to the top of the pan was not applied to many if not most martial guns and many civilian guns.  The hole was often buried a little into the pan.  I believe, that combined with a fairly large touch hole resulted in more reliable ignition rather than fast ignition because the greater radiant heat after priming burns a little was more likely to ignite the charge after the barrel was fouled from previous shots.  Runar, your project is going to be really neat but that kind of barrel was not used on dueling pistols.  They were used on civilian "over coat" pistols, naval pistols, and sometimes military horse pistols.

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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2020, 04:40:11 AM »
In my opinion our modern day idea of touch hole location is just that. Modern.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2020, 04:53:09 AM »
This is going to interesting to watch, as usual!! ;D

Thanks Runar.

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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2020, 03:51:01 PM »
Hi, and thank you all! jerrywh, yes I will do that! smart dog(Kloke hund) think I will Call it a naval offiser pistol I live 150 meter from the North sea!The barrel is inlet.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2020, 02:41:02 PM »
I am agree With you guys it was originaled drilled so for a reason, so I just modefied the enter to 3,5mm half the wall any comments?
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2020, 06:07:31 PM »
Interesting, but I don't think the chamfer was necessary. Perhaps thinning that spot was not a good idea, strength-wise. It might
make no difference, though.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2020, 06:12:57 PM »
Hi guys, and thank you Daryl. Breach plug in Place
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2020, 04:11:31 PM »
Hi Guys! So back to building for a while, lockplate inletting.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2020, 07:40:20 AM »
Nice job altering the touch hole!  This will be a nice looking pistol, I can tell already. 

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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2020, 11:38:31 AM »
Hi all, and thank you Curtis! Here is some more .
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2020, 02:52:14 PM »
Hello Runastav, I have been following this build closely. I like the way that you have all your guide lnes boldly marked. That always helps to avoid mistakes. I noticed that you did not diminish the wood on the lock side closer to the final surface. That really makes it harder to inlet the lock.  I'm sure you figured that out.
What I like the most is that cool lock. Also you have not whined once about how hard it is to hold a pistol.
Can't wait to see it finished.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2020, 12:13:52 PM »
Hi all! and thank you alacran!  So back to some building again! Trigger made.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2020, 07:23:48 PM »
Hi guys!  Triggerplate made, brass triggergard is from uncnovn origin bend it Nice When careful heathing.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2020, 01:28:17 AM »
Looking good.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2020, 04:00:41 PM »
Hi all! And thank you alacran! Litle more,
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2020, 08:11:35 PM »
Runar,

Looking good, keep us posted of progress. Best of luck to the finish.

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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2020, 10:01:14 PM »
Very nice looking build there. Have a couple I want to make along these lines. Thanks for sharing and lettikg us all see ypur process.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2020, 03:45:54 PM »
I like the way you made your trigger in two parts. I typically make them in one piece and there is a lot of trial an error fitting to get the end result I want. Next one I make will be two pieces.
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2020, 06:05:31 PM »
I really enjoy your work Runar.  The lines are coming along nicely.  I like the way you bent that trigger guard too.  Please keep the pictures coming to us.  God Bless,   Marc

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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2020, 08:41:22 PM »
Hi all! and thank you all! The sideplate made of brass, for the time I do lots of differents gunjobs and litle building ;)
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Re: Building a Brass barrel flintlock pistol
« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2020, 09:35:47 PM »
for your flash hole, you can drill to the end then tap M6 or 1/4 "or something like that to put a touch hole that you will have made on lathe if you don't find it. The advantage is a direct start.