Author Topic: Specie (Read 2795 times)

varsity07840 · « **on:** May 08, 2020, 09:02:15 PM »

Any idea what wood specie this is? It sure doesn't look like maple, at least to me.

Daryl · « **Reply #1 on:** May 08, 2020, 10:16:49 PM »

galamb · « **Reply #2 on:** May 08, 2020, 10:51:01 PM »

It looks like (plain) maple to me...

Ky-Flinter · « **Reply #3 on:** May 08, 2020, 11:57:25 PM »

Maple that's been sitting in the corner for a loooong time.

-Ron

varsity07840 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2020, 12:06:16 AM »

I've never seen plain maple with such straight, close grain with no color contrast. I also appears a bit porous.

rich pierce · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2020, 12:10:32 AM »

Looks like fir to me. On maple the rings are not that obvious. Can you scratch it easily with a fingernail under the buttplate?
Looks let for a Hawken buttplate casting that is not my favorite.

Cades Cove Fiddler · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2020, 12:30:36 AM »

... glad you said fir, Rich,... I was gonna say someone shaped a white pine board,... !!! ... CCF

smart dog · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2020, 01:01:20 AM »

Hi,
It really does look like a softwood but one that grew very slowly because of the fine grain. However, you should be able to tell that immediately if it sands or cuts easily. I suppose it could be some sort of soft maple as well but I cannot tell from the photos. It might help if you provide some context here. Where did it come from? By the way, "specie" refers to coinage. The word "species" meaning some distinct form of life is both singular and plural.

dave

steven baker · « **Reply #8 on:** May 09, 2020, 09:14:31 AM »

Hi ,as a tip you could drop in to a local cabinetmaker or furniture maker and ask for his or her opinion ,these folk maybe able to give a good tip as they handle different pieces of lumber most days ,take care Steven.

varsity07840 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 09, 2020, 04:00:00 PM »

I don't own it. It's for sale on line. I was in the millwork business for 40 years and I thought I knew my way around wood species but this one has me stumped. Pun intended. I'd probably have a better idea if I could physically check it out.

RichG · « **Reply #10 on:** May 09, 2020, 07:06:17 PM »

I think what might appear to wood grain in photo is the grooves left by the router used to shape stock. I've seen stocks on line and at shows that had a similar appearance.

Pete G. · « **Reply #11 on:** May 09, 2020, 09:51:59 PM »

Sycamore maybe???

Mtn Meek · « **Reply #12 on:** May 09, 2020, 10:56:09 PM »

Looks like a stock from a Sharon Rifle Barrel Co. Hawken kit. I've got one just like it. Mine is really hard straight grain maple.

The shape of the butt plate cut with the swept back toe and the large cutouts for the barrel key under lugs are dead giveaways.

Mine actually has the same remnants of the tape adhesive on the wrist.

Maineshops · « **Reply #13 on:** May 10, 2020, 04:06:05 PM »

It looks like ash to me. Similar grain as oak but lighter in color..Dan

Hungry Horse · « **Reply #14 on:** May 10, 2020, 04:56:36 PM »

I’m guessing straight grained silver maple. I have a stock that looks just like this one, that someone gave to me to use as a stock pattern, after they did a terrible job of inletting the parts. It was from a pretty high end kit years ago.

Hungry Horse

varsity07840 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 10, 2020, 10:11:28 PM »

It's a Sharon stock, or a pattern for one. There were some parts with it and looking closer at one of the pics and I noticed their unique entry pipe. The rest of the parts look appear to be from TOW, judging by the tags on some of them including the butt plate.

Mtn Meek · « **Reply #16 on:** May 11, 2020, 12:18:36 AM »

Quote from: varsity07840 on May 10, 2020, 10:11:28 PM

It's a Sharon stock, or a pattern for one. There were some parts with it and looking closer at one of the pics and I noticed their unique entry pipe. The rest of the parts look appear to be from TOW, judging by the tags on some of them including the butt plate.

Yes, there was a mix of parts. The entry pipe, the key escutcheon, the L&R triggers with the curved front trigger, the cast steel front sight, the lock bolt escutcheon, the trigger guard, and the toe plates all match the parts in my Sharon half stock Hawken kit. The two upper ramrod pipes appear to be from a Sharon full stock kit. All the parts in the picture below are probably from Sharon.

The butt plate and underrib have TOTW stickers on them as you noted. The butt plate appears to be Track's Bridger Hawken butt plate and won't fit the stock cutouts.

The challenge for whoever bought this will be coming up with a Sharon breech and tang to fit the tang mortise already cut in the stock.

A person might could make Track's butt plate #BP-HAWK-L-I fit by bending it and/or trimming the stock. And L&R's Model #100 Hawken lock plate will still fit the lock mortise in the stock.

A doable project with the right breech and tang.

AMartin · « **Reply #17 on:** May 12, 2020, 12:02:59 PM »

Plain sugar maple with a grudge patina from past 36 years ...

rich pierce · « **Reply #18 on:** May 12, 2020, 01:53:55 PM »

With that closeup it may be hard maple. If it’s a Sharon Hawken precarve kit stock then it is hard maple. And if so, L&R breech and tang and triggers will likely fit.

An unidentified precarve stock from the 1970s or 1980s would give me pause. The chances of getting or finding parts that fit the inlets are not great. If looking to build a generic Hawken style rifle with a low dollar investment, it might work for some.

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Author Topic: Specie (Read 2795 times)

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