Author Topic: Building a 4 Bore English Rifle (Read 22035 times)

Bill Raby · « **Reply #50 on:** August 01, 2020, 12:26:22 AM »

There is nothing hard about doing this stuff. The rick is to pay attention and take your time.

Bill Raby · « **Reply #51 on:** August 07, 2020, 05:26:54 PM »

Here is Part 14

Daryl · « **Reply #52 on:** August 10, 2020, 06:57:08 PM »

Bill, the top gun is a 6 bore 1/2 stock - for dimensions & layout, etc. I have noticed the flintlock 1/2 stocks
generally had 2 barrel tenons/keys, while the 1/2 stocked percussion English guns had but one. You likely knew that.

Bob McBride · « **Reply #53 on:** August 10, 2020, 07:01:08 PM »

Based on Daryl's pic Bill you may not be too far out with your end cap.

Bill Raby · « **Reply #54 on:** August 11, 2020, 03:52:28 AM »

I looked at a lot of pictures of old guns. The proportions that I went with are not normal, but they are historic examples. The proportions of the 4 bores are all over the place. Seems likely that every one was built to order in the 19th century. I am trying to stay historically accurate, but making it something that I can actually shoot is going to take precedence. What finally decided it was when I shot one of the larger modern elephant rifles holding it with the same hand position that would be used with a short fore end. Much harder to control that way. The 4 bore will have over triple the recoil of that modern rifle.

This rifle is definitely a challenging one. I am working on inletting the entry pipe right now. And the the intros. I am spending way to much time on the artwork for those, and having way too much fun with them!

Daryl · « **Reply #55 on:** August 11, 2020, 07:10:44 PM »

There will be a LOT of push, that's for sure. Thankfully, the velocity of recoil will be lower than with modern guns,
however when discussing recoil of over 200 pounds, that is a rather moot point.

Bill Raby · « **Reply #56 on:** August 21, 2020, 12:48:14 PM »

Here is Part 15

Bill Raby · « **Reply #57 on:** August 21, 2020, 12:49:17 PM »

Here is Part 16

Bill Raby · « **Reply #58 on:** August 28, 2020, 12:43:36 PM »

Here is Part 17

Bill Raby · « **Reply #59 on:** September 04, 2020, 03:21:42 PM »

Here is Part 18

Bill Raby · « **Reply #60 on:** September 12, 2020, 02:29:58 AM »

Here is Part 19

Bill Raby · « **Reply #61 on:** September 18, 2020, 02:42:57 PM »

Here is Part 20

Craig Wilcox · « **Reply #62 on:** September 19, 2020, 07:24:41 PM »

Really enjoying the build-along. You ae approaching each step in a carefully planned manner, and giving reasons for doing as you do.

Bill Raby · « **Reply #63 on:** September 25, 2020, 02:43:25 PM »

Here is Part 21

sz · « **Reply #64 on:** September 27, 2020, 02:11:57 AM »

I have made a few of them. They do kick. Here is a man firing one. He is shooting a light load (no I am not kidding) and the barrel fires a "true 4 " so the ball is 1750 grains.

4 bore in action by Steve Zihn, on Flickr

Bob Roller · « **Reply #65 on:** September 27, 2020, 02:38:12 AM »

An old fashioned big boom elephant gun for sure.
On my first trip to Friendship in 1954 I heard a
powerful rifle being fired across the road from the
foot bridge that crossed Laughery Creek.There
were several men shooting a 600 double rifle
at big carp that were near the bridge.I was offered
the chance to fire it and turned it down.That gun
packed an abrupt and hard kick and to lean over the
rail on the bridge and fire down into the creek to me
was a bad idea.Fishing with a 600,I will pass thank you.
Bob Roller

Daryl · « **Reply #66 on:** September 27, 2020, 02:58:18 AM »

Detached retinas I do not need.
The stuff I do shoot, kicks plenty enough to satisfy those yearnings for being abused, LOL.

Bob Roller · « **Reply #67 on:** September 27, 2020, 03:45:19 AM »

Quote from: Daryl on September 27, 2020, 02:58:18 AM

Detached retinas I do not need.
The stuff I do shoot, kicks plenty enough to satisfy those yearnings for being abused, LOL.

I was not thinking of detached retinas but was thinking in terms of a cracked
collar bone 180 miles from home and not having my own car.My own yearnings
for personal abuse is to eat my own cooking and were satisfied 6 weeks ago
when my wife fell and cracked 3 ribs.
Recoil induced detached retinas,Hoodathunkit? Not me----never.
Bob Roller

Bill Raby · « **Reply #68 on:** September 27, 2020, 07:09:13 AM »

It is not very likely that I will ever actually go elephant hunting. I do not need to load it with 500+ grains of powder for every shot. This is all just for fun.

Daryl · « **Reply #69 on:** September 27, 2020, 09:43:45 AM »

Quote from: Bill Raby on September 27, 2020, 07:09:13 AM

It is not very likely that I will ever actually go elephant hunting. I do not need to load it with 500+ grains of powder for every shot. This is all just for fun.

10 drams is merely a 273.5gr. load.
Full charge, at least for the ctg. version is 16 drams, considerably higher than that.
Interesting choice for a "Sporting Rifle", Bill.
Steve Zihnn has considerable experience with these, along with 2 bores.

Bill Raby · « **Reply #70 on:** October 02, 2020, 02:43:22 PM »

Here is Part 22

snapper · « **Reply #71 on:** October 02, 2020, 03:16:28 PM »

Bill

Enjoyed the video. Looking forward to when you get it done and actually shoot it.

Fleener

Bill Raby · « **Reply #72 on:** October 03, 2020, 03:14:01 AM »

So am I.

LilysDad · « **Reply #73 on:** October 06, 2020, 02:20:57 PM »

Where do you find that cutter lube stick seen in your videos?

Bill Raby · « **Reply #74 on:** October 07, 2020, 03:05:43 AM »

You can get that from Rio Grande

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Author Topic: Building a 4 Bore English Rifle (Read 22035 times)