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Offline Lucky R A

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Mystery lock
« on: May 27, 2020, 04:02:31 AM »
       A friend brought this lock into the shop this evening and asked if I knew what it was...I could not answer his question other than to surmise that it was on some type of military musket.  I would love to hear anything you can tell me about this big old lock.  Love the wood block to strengthen the frizzen spring...Thanks for your input
Ron





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Re: Mystery lock
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2020, 04:10:56 AM »
It looks like a dead ringer for the lock on my 1766 French musket, although a lot of those French musket locks looked very similar.
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Re: Mystery lock
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2020, 04:33:40 AM »
It is more than likely an American copy of a French M1763 or M1766 lock, probably from the Federal period or the 1794 Contract period. The lock is just a little bit too unrefined and "clunky" to be French made. But, never say never. See page 36 of Pete Schmidt's Vol I picturing a lock by William Henry fitted to a 1794 Contract musket by Henry.

Nice lock in any case. Rare to find one on the loose.

Two photos attached of a lock from a French M1766 musket made at Charleville.




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Re: Mystery lock
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2020, 04:48:06 AM »
Here is the lock from my 1766 musket. It was made at Maubeuge ( I think I spelled that right ).


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Re: Mystery lock
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2020, 05:30:35 AM »
Here's another Maubeuge lock for comparison.



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Re: Mystery lock
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2020, 07:43:36 AM »
Here's another Maubeuge lock for comparison.



  That's pretty neat!

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Re: Mystery lock
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2020, 01:38:03 PM »
       Thanks guys, it looks like the mystery has been solved.   The friend who brought the lock in also works in my shop building his own guns, so is a developing builder and collector.  One of his associates at his work place brought the lock in and asked what he could tell about it, and then sold it to him for a pittance.  The lock was found in an old house---now if they can just find the rest of the gun---
Thanks again,
Ron
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Re: Mystery lock
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2020, 02:41:06 PM »
Your friend should change his name to "Lucky" as well. An American made lock from this early period is rare and more desirable that any French musket lock.
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Re: Mystery lock
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2020, 06:12:41 PM »
Here is another one in a used up colonial musket with a Confederate conversion to percussion.


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Re: Mystery lock
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2020, 05:40:56 PM »
 A friend of mine bought a French musket at a gun show some years ago that was obviously built from a variety of French musket parts. Itís lock is like the ones pictured, and the plate is marked Maubeuge, but the pan is brass like the later 1777ís but shaped like the 1763ís. Iíve not seen another with this feature.

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