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Offline WESTbury

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Morphy Auction
« on: May 27, 2020, 06:54:57 PM »
Lot#1051 Moravian Rifle went for $70k

Lot#1085 New Hampshire Battalion marked Charleville went for $40k

Not sure if the above includes 20% Buyers Premium, probably not.
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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2020, 07:22:56 PM »
There’s a tomahawk in there that went through the roof. And into outer space. Lots of horns bringing high prices too. Anything Revolutionary War linked seems highest.
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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2020, 07:40:15 PM »
There’s a tomahawk in there that went through the roof. And into outer space.

Perhaps the two astronauts going up into orbit later today will be able to retrieve it.
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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2020, 07:58:24 PM »
Amazed the rifle didn't go higher considering the Lion and Lamb price, but one shouldn't look for consistency and logic in such things. Hard to think of a better pipe hawk, but yes that did well.

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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2020, 09:10:25 PM »
I think the association of the Lion and the Lamb rifle with the Revolutionary War boosted it.
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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2020, 12:05:38 AM »
I don't know if the Lion and Lamb rifle actually sold.  The bid was at the low end of estimate, and the auction results do not include that rifle.  It may have been withdrawn. 

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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2020, 02:37:22 AM »
I don't know if the Lion and Lamb rifle actually sold.  The bid was at the low end of estimate, and the auction results do not include that rifle.  It may have been withdrawn.

That is correct, it did not sell.

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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2020, 04:57:59 AM »
Thank you WESTbury for the clarification on the L&L rifle. 

Rich and all, it appears that Lot 1051 did not sell today, either.  It no longer shows up in the program with bid results, or by Search.  Owner may have withdrawn the rifle.   

It is a treat to have access to great photos when offered at auction, and we hope the owners continue to show and share these wonderful old rifles and smooth rifles.  Bob

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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2020, 05:25:30 AM »
Might someone please provide a link to the results?


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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2020, 02:35:54 PM »
You can see the results on Proxibid and on Morphy's website.

Lot#1153 Dutch Musket with "TOWN OF BOSTON" brand in the butt went for $33,825. This musket had a better chance of possibly being used in The Rev War than the Dutch musket auctioned last October for $400+k.
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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2020, 03:40:04 PM »
Might someone please provide a link to the results?

Just search online for Morphy Auctions and look at the current one.
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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2020, 07:53:10 PM »
They do a good job of hiding the tab to get to realized prices, but I did find it.  Seems the recent market crash and sub-zero economic conditions did not impact many bidders.  Most seem to have brought well over estimates and way the heck over on some items.

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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2020, 11:23:09 PM »
 ;D Like I said in another thread, Good stuff still brings good prices!
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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2020, 12:02:33 AM »
Lot#1051 Moravian Rifle went for $70k

Lot#1085 New Hampshire Battalion marked Charleville went for $40k

Not sure if the above includes 20% Buyers Premium, probably not.
Looks like 28% plus PA sales tax of 6%...for those which did sell!

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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2020, 02:15:02 AM »
I can't be right as to commission & tax, as Morphy is showing $664,200 with cmssn...

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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2020, 03:58:17 AM »
Impressive auction and even more impressive prices. Maybe a lottery ticket every so often is not so unresaonable, toward the next auction. The bargain to my eye was the early 'Smith' musket lock. That should be worth much more than the bidder paid. Some of the small axe heads appeared to be good values, as well. Surprised that the Butler Tomahawk did not fetch more. Next time it sells will be closer to a million dollars, if it doesn't exceed that price. To my mind, that is the most important and attractive historical artifact that has yet come to light. Thre may be others, but where? Glad to see that values of some items are holding strong.
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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2020, 09:27:06 PM »
It was a good auction. Revolutionary War items continue to be strong. I did get the Admiral Duckworth fusil and feel I paid a fair price for it. I had that particular fusil in my hands at a gun show several years ago and it was priced to me for $15,000 at that time.
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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2020, 11:32:36 PM »
I'm amazed the Butler pipe tomahawk didn't sell for at least a million.  the buyer sure got a good investment, i think.

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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2020, 12:50:42 AM »
I believe the prices shown on Morphy's site include a 23% Buyers Premium. There is a 3%  discount if paid with check or wired funds. The actual sale price of the tomahawk would be
$644,274.00.

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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2020, 01:52:28 AM »
I wonder if it is going to end up in the Military Vehicle Museum in Wyoming, where that Dutch musket went last October.

It seems like an obscene amount of money given our current economic circumstances.
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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2020, 03:47:55 AM »
Good chance that some of the things are in Wyoming. I wish that I had obscene amounts of money. Oh well! Does anyone know if the fellow in Wyoming welcomes visitors?
Scott, appreciate your comments and will read your papers cited above.
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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2020, 04:16:33 AM »
Dick--Per the website, NMMV.org, the grand opening was to be May 25th. Postponed indefinitely. The site's message is to monitor them for updates. I think in sparsely populated Wyoming, this social distancing $#@* will not be a problem.

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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2020, 01:09:50 AM »
So Dan is the CEO of St. Jude medical and all those poor kids begging for donations and Dan knocks down over 7 million a year?

Tell me it ain't so!

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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2020, 01:24:29 AM »
I found Dan's doppleganger. :)

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Re: Morphy Auction
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2020, 04:16:41 AM »
Dan! Dan? Sure you have the right thread, or is this some inside thing?
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