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Offline MontanaFrontier86

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Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« on: June 23, 2020, 01:05:42 AM »
Just as the title says. Im wanting to have a builder make me a replica of the Philip Creamer rifle that was made for William Clark. Since price varies for different builders I will just say between $1 up to $5000 for the sake of putting a price to follow rules. Preferbly someone who does not have a 5 year plus wait would be nice as well.
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Offline redheart

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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2020, 01:49:48 AM »
He's gonna kill me, but the first builder I'd try If I needed a custom build would be D. Taylor Sapergia.
« Last Edit: June 23, 2020, 06:55:35 AM by redheart »
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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2020, 02:52:21 AM »
Mr. Jim Parker, Calvary Longrifles!!!
Great builder, fine gentleman also . No short cuts when he builds a rifle !

Bob
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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2020, 03:53:27 AM »
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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2020, 04:15:05 AM »
all I can say is WOW!
Rob
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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2020, 05:06:12 AM »
Quote from: borderdogs on June 23, 2020, 04:15:05 AM
all I can say is WOW!
Rob

You ought to see it in person. Every 10 years or so ya run into a gun like that.
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Offline Bob Roller

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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2020, 02:08:14 PM »
Bob Browner made a copy of a Creamer pistol several years ago and I made'the lock for it.
I was not happy with that lock as I recall but Bob thought it was OK.
He is in St.Louis.
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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2020, 02:19:45 PM »
Quote from: rich pierce on June 23, 2020, 03:53:27 AM
Louie Parker. He’s already done one and it is stellar.
http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2018/06/copy-of-phillip-creamer-rifle-made-for.html

Everything Louie Parker does is stellar!
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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2020, 02:31:46 PM »
Quote from: rich pierce on June 23, 2020, 03:53:27 AM
Louie Parker. He’s already done one and it is stellar.
http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2018/06/copy-of-phillip-creamer-rifle-made-for.html

I saw this rifle in person when it was in the white, right before finishing.  It is as amazing as it looks.  Louie is a national treasure, as wonderful a human being and scholar as he is gunmaker.  Doubt you could get this one of this quality for 5k though....
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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2020, 02:42:30 PM »
On Louie’s, the buttplate is forged and brazed, the guard fabricated, the lock custom, and so on. On Bob Browner’s pistol, a lot of fabrication.


I’ve wanted to attempt that rifle but need to up my game for a few years and then gird my loins and get my mind right. Unlike a lot of guns a fella could want, there are no parts available for this one. Zero. The original is in the History Museum here in St.Louis.
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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2020, 07:55:23 PM »
Quote from: rich pierce on June 23, 2020, 02:42:30 PM
On Louie’s, the buttplate is forged and brazed, the guard fabricated, the lock custom, and so on. On Bob Browner’s pistol, a lot of fabrication.


I’ve wanted to attempt that rifle but need to up my game for a few years and then gird my loins and get my mind right. Unlike a lot of guns a fella could want, there are no parts available for this one. Zero. The original is in the History Museum here in St.Louis.

Are there photos of this rifle we can look at???

Bob Roller
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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2020, 10:07:50 PM »
Bob, click on the link in this post:
Louie Parker. He’s already done one and it is stellar.
http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2018/06/copy-of-phillip-creamer-rifle-made-for.html
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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2020, 05:13:41 PM »
Thanks for everyone's advice. I did find a builder for this.
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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2020, 05:41:03 PM »
Quote from: Brent English on June 23, 2020, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: rich pierce on June 23, 2020, 03:53:27 AM
Louie Parker. He’s already done one and it is stellar.
http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2018/06/copy-of-phillip-creamer-rifle-made-for.html

I saw this rifle in person when it was in the white, right before finishing.  It is as amazing as it looks.  Louie is a national treasure, as wonderful a human being and scholar as he is gunmaker.  Doubt you could get this one of this quality for 5k though....

Yeah - indeed.

That rifle is stellar!
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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2020, 08:27:24 PM »
Quote from: Daryl on June 24, 2020, 05:41:03 PM
Quote from: Brent English on June 23, 2020, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: rich pierce on June 23, 2020, 03:53:27 AM
Louie Parker. He’s already done one and it is stellar.
http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2018/06/copy-of-phillip-creamer-rifle-made-for.html
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I saw this rifle in person when it was in the white, right before finishing.  It is as amazing as it looks.  Louie is a national treasure, as wonderful a human being and scholar as he is gunmaker.  Doubt you could get this one of this quality for 5k though....

Yeah - indeed.

That rifle is stellar!
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OUTstanding! I think it would be noticeable from across the ball room floor in Lexington.
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Re: Recommendation for builder of Philip Creamer Iron mounted rifle
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2020, 11:29:39 PM »
This is a link to the Creamer pistol Bob Browner did

http://contemporarymakers.blogspot.com/2013/06/2013-cla-live-auction-andrew-jacksons.html

Also has some Creamer history
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