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Offline mtmannh

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Hawken lock identification?
« on: June 23, 2020, 01:37:12 AM »






Got several of these from an older gentleman estate. While they look like Davis, Davis confirmed they always marked them with "circleD". Mainspring is also different. They may be from the '70s. Note the stamped numbers, and each has a different number.
Ron Long is one possibility, but looking for other input. Thank you in advance

Offline Bob Roller

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Re: Hawken lock identification?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2020, 03:21:30 AM »
Ron Long style but he usually marked his with his name.
Not one of mine either but possibly an assembled kit from
Ron Long parts.
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Re: Hawken lock identification?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2020, 04:31:25 AM »
Thank you, Bob.

Offline Bob Roller

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Re: Hawken lock identification?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2020, 02:16:38 PM »
Thank you, Bob.

You're welcome.This lock pretty well represents the quality found on most American
muzzle loading rifles and with a "half cock" and "fly" it will exceed most of them like
the Goulcher and other utility grade locks.

Bob Roller

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Re: Hawken lock identification?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2020, 04:00:16 PM »
Hey bro mtnman, I have a Longs lock and it is identical to yours, only mine is stamped Ron Long, Longs Locks inside plate, no number tho.
Maybe yours was made later by whoever ended up with Mr Longs tooling.
Good lock for sure. Have a goodun, Dave F 8) 8)

Offline Carney Pace

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Re: Hawken lock identification?
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2020, 04:28:52 PM »
As I recall Tim Houseweart bought Ron Long's lock business and later sold it to Tom Fox, They both are located around the Denver area.
I do not know how they ere marked.

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Re: Hawken lock identification?
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2020, 05:46:59 PM »
Ron Long style but he usually marked his with his name. Not one of mine either but possibly an assembled kit from
Ron Long parts. Bob Roller

I think your correct Bob. I use to go to Ron's place on Delta Court at least two times a month (worked near bye so it wasn't out of the way).  When Ron sold the lock business to Tim Houseworth (a neighbor), Tim was always in a hurry so quality slipped a little.  When Tim sold the business to Cox up north it went down a little more and so on.

I handled Long's parts at my store "Buckhorn Rendezvous" in Masonville CO, had rifles built by Ron, repairs done on antiques by him and so.

The lock in question was built from a kit using Ron Long's parts as stated. 

Carney you come up some pretty neat items. Have you talked to the guys in Roosevelt UT lately? Doc, Les and Carl are still assembling GRRW.CA H.E. Leman Trade Rifles.

Nice seeing you guys names once again.

Buck

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Re: Hawken lock identification?
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2020, 10:54:16 PM »
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Re: Hawken lock identification?
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2020, 02:30:08 AM »
RE Davis makes that lock too.  They are stamped on the inside, right where that number is on yours, with a capital D in a circle.
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