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Offline gibster

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Sibley Horn?????
« on: August 15, 2009, 04:08:19 AM »
I have a horn that when I got it, I was told that it was made by Scott and Cathy Sibley.  I really have no idea.  Do any of you know if they mark their horns, and if so, how?  Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2009, 04:35:10 AM »
Can you provide a pic?  I find it hard to believe that they didn't sign the horn. 
Gary
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2009, 09:19:34 AM »
Gibster,
I believe the Sibley's mark their horn with a tiny thunderbird with an "S" on it followed by the year.
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« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2009, 03:57:12 PM »
Gibster,
I believe the Sibley's mark their horn with a tiny thunderbird with an "S" on it followed by the year.
Dan

You are correct--thats how mine are marked.

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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2009, 07:10:26 PM »
Thanks for the info guys.  Here are a few pictures of the horn and from the information that you gave, this is one of their horns.  There is a small thunderbird with an "s" and the date "00" indicating that it was made in 2000.  Thanks again for all your help.
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« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2009, 03:56:34 PM »
That horn was made right after we moved to Wyoming. We dont mark undecorated horns, which we probably should.  We have used atleast 3 different marks over the years. We usually change about every 10 years. Cathy and I have been making horns since 1976.  We now are using a simple triangle with a S in it and the last two digits of the year.  This will probably be the last decade for us.  Life is short, ride hard.

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« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2009, 04:36:30 PM »
Scott, welcome to the forum.  As always, don't be bashful about jumping into some of our conversations.  Some of us could always use another set of eyes or advice as warranted.
Gary
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« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2009, 04:58:09 PM »
Indeed, welcome to the forum Scott.  Your input would be most welcome, and your company enjoyed.
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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2009, 02:38:01 AM »
Welcome Scott, glad to have you here!
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« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2009, 06:23:49 AM »
Thank You for the warm welcome.

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« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2009, 03:35:25 PM »
 To echo the others, glad to see you on board. Add to that a Thank You for writting the book. No matter how long you do something or how you do it it is always nice to see a how to book for new ideas or assurances of old ones.
 Hope you will post some pics.

 Thanks, Tim C.

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« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2009, 04:15:24 AM »
some one tell me how to post and I will. ???

Offline G. Elsenbeck

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« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2009, 04:34:03 AM »
Scott, we have a tutorial regarding use of photos that will prove quite useful.  You can thank Acer for the great article.
http://americanlongrifles.org/forum/index.php?topic=10.0
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« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2009, 04:26:39 AM »
I finished this horn several weeks ago, for myself. The pegs are turned of antler and buffalo horn. I enjoy aging my horns.   

     



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« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2009, 04:49:39 AM »
Glad I see you figured out the picture thing and this one is a beauty.  Are these bands applied or integral?  Same for the hearts too?  You have a real knack for applying just the right aging or 'used' look.  Something I always struggle with. 
Does the antler finial screw out to fill up the horn? 
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« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2009, 05:29:48 AM »
everything is shaped from  the horn.  The plug in the base is permanent (hopefully)  This one took me a week to do.  I did one for a customer and messed it up after 5 days of working on it.  I salvaged the front half of it and mated it to another car wreak and came up with a winner.  I will post that one if I can find a picture. It really turned out nice. (in my opinion)

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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2009, 05:35:45 AM »
the rings, circles and hearts are carved from the horn.  The antler knob is permanent (I hope)  I worked on another like this for 5 days before asking too much from the horn.  Ouch!  I cut off the tip end and grafted it to another car wreak andcame up with a beauty (I my opinion)  I will post that one if I can find the shot.

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« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2009, 06:21:15 AM »
Well, at least I'm in good company.  I thought I was the only one that made car wrecks.   ;D  Of course the upside is you get to practice repairs or re-engineering.  Or what I prefer to call it 'another design challenge'.
We will look forward to see the 'wreck'.
Gary
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« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2009, 07:26:20 AM »
A very nice horn Scott!  I have the same questions that Gary has on the bands; applied or carved? 
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« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2009, 03:49:28 PM »
 Great horn, excellent design, what an imagination!
 Now the questions; I know the hearts and bands were carved from the horn and I know how to do the bands but would you mind telling us how you did the hearts? Stabbing in with chisels or...........

 Thanks, Tim C. 

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« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2009, 05:43:03 PM »
 I use a chisel with a chaser while Cathy holds it on a big bag of beans (lighter than a sand bag and we live in bean country, besides its a great place to store beans that you might have to live on)  After I get the shapes cut in, then I relieve the background areas using the same shallow gouge.  Next I go to a double cut mill bastad file to smooth out the lumps and bumps left by the chisel. After that the furniture scraper comes into play and I finish it up with that.  A furniture scraper is good to get into the tight places that you cant with a file real well.   Thanks for the compliments.  I am going to keep this one for myself. For awhile atleast.
BTW: This horn was based after a horn in Bill Guthmans collection. The original didnt have the front band. After I got the hearts and circles on, I realized they were too far towards the base and therefore not centered (oh what to do!, plan B) put in another ring to balance the horn.  "Stuff happens"

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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2009, 05:55:56 PM »
Here are three pictures of the "car wreck" I spoke of last night.  Turning two into one, theres alittle black magic involved in horn making.








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« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2009, 07:59:12 PM »
One wreck = new design.  Not so sure if black magic but,  rather imagination and willing to think outside the box produces voila.  Great job Scott and I may try to do something similar with pieces I have laying around here.  Now if I can engrave as well as Kathy I'll be a happy horner.  Thanks for sharing the pics and I love learning something new while viewing the results of others. 
Gary
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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2009, 03:07:26 AM »
I like the engraving on the "carwreck".  Your lettering is outstanding!

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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2009, 04:52:58 PM »
 Thanks for the reply on how the hearts were done. I am a big fan of scrapers also, made from old saw blades. Break them off shape and sharpen.
 As for the "Car Wreck"...What a recovery! Really neat looking, Great save.

  Tim C.