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Any thoughts on this little box??
« on: August 04, 2020, 12:50:11 AM »
Made out of wood . The top twists around to open. I have a small snuff box collection and got this to go with them.  I assume that is what this is. . I'm thinking early nineteen century out of Germany but am not sure . If any has ideas or comments  I'd appreciate it.   Jim








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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2020, 02:44:31 AM »
Very cool Jim. Just enough cutout to let your two fingertips in.

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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2020, 04:51:41 PM »
That's a really interesting box.  Nice find.
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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2020, 09:30:59 PM »
This would be a challenge to make. Very nice and unique. Thanks for posting it here, Jim!
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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2020, 09:46:29 PM »
  Really neat box. Would you post a side shot of it?

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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2020, 11:11:45 PM »
  Really neat box. Would you post a side shot of it?

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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2020, 12:19:05 AM »
  You got it; let's see what I come up with, I'm work'n on it, lots of possibilities...wood, brass, horn, a combination, need to work it out in my head first. 

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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2020, 02:13:39 AM »
Thank you all for your interest.
Tim here's a couple of other views.






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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2020, 08:43:15 AM »
Vanity box for macaroni face patches?
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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2020, 04:54:42 PM »
I don't know, but it actually has an oriental feel to my eyes.  Or perhaps Turkish?  The hat on the rider might tell you more.  Hard to see from the photos.  God Bless,   Marc

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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2020, 05:17:45 PM »
I seem to see Doves and hearts (Euro/American motif?), trees, and is that a palm of some sort in the foreground of the rider? Spanish?

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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2020, 12:49:36 AM »
On the top there is a rider with a sword on a horse next to a pine tree? There are two birds facing  each other standing over a heart. Doves? Fifteen stars scattered around.  Wood looks like walnut to me but I sure could be wrong.  Thanks everyone.
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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2020, 12:40:37 AM »
Thank you all for your interest.
Tim here's a couple of other views.







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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2020, 03:32:50 AM »
Could you give us a few basic dimensions, please?

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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2020, 04:02:45 AM »
I'd say European for sure. Southern European maybe. The rider appears to have a helmet with a feather crest. Hearts and doves (often shown erect with swept back wings as shown) are common enough European motifs. Very cool piece.

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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2020, 04:24:46 PM »
Dale, Here are the dimension's

Bottom piece diameter 3 inches.  Top piece. 3 1/2 inches  .   height 1/2 inch on the outside curve . 
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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2020, 08:51:29 PM »
Thank you, Jim.

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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2020, 11:30:03 PM »
Interesting!  Snuff box???
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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2020, 05:27:05 PM »
Thanks for posting.  Does the pivot pin project into the box and can you feel a cross pin on the inside?

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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2020, 05:48:17 PM »
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Thanks for posting.  Does the pivot pin project into the box and can you feel a cross pin on the inside?

Yes the wooden dowel in the center goes all the way . It just barely sticks through.  It looks  to be a round wood piece holding it on the inside.  My fingers are to big to get inside  to get  a good feel of  the pin.
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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2020, 06:46:04 PM »
Thanks.
A dental mirror and a flashlight might allow a good look.

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Re: Any thoughts on this little box??
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2020, 04:03:31 AM »
Very cool. It does have an “oriental” feel to it. An expression in 18th century sense meant “ anything not Western European.  Hashish or opium holder?