Rice's lock website

[sdilts]

Liston Rice has just created a website for his Nock lock and triggers. Check it out. Here's the address:
https://www.buckridgeflintlocks.com/

[flinchrocket]

Sorry, I'm not impressed.

[Scota4570]

Are these done from castings, drilled with jigs and finished with a belt sander/sand blasted as mostly done?  Looks pretty rough, https://www.buckridgeflintlocks.com/product-page/henry-nock-lock-round-tail-version OR, are they a step up in some way?

[bob in the woods]

I initiated a topic concerning this lock a couple months ago. The lock was supposedly only going to be available from TVM. The write up in Muzzleloader magazine made a big deal about the lock utilizing a stirup /linkage .   Personally, I have never used anything but Chambers or Davis locks and remain unconvinced re the Rice offering.  My next lock will be from Jim Kibler.

[Mike Brooks]

I'm not a fan of sirruped mainsprings but this lock looks fine to me. Never have cared for the built up area under frizzens, but that can be ground off. Otherwise I'm all in if it is a sparker. I like the round tailed option too.

[Bob Roller]

I abandoned the slipnslide mainspring in 1970 and never went back to them.
The Brits called the link or stirrup an "anti friction link"for good reason.
Bob Roller

[B.Habermehl]

The lock that LC had at Dixon’s last summer was as nice a lock as I’ve handled. Quite on par with anything I’ve used. Had I had a need for one it would have come home with me. BJH

[hornturner]

I liked the lock and L.C.'s demonstration of it at Dixon's last summer so much that both I and my buddy bought one.  Don't yet have a project in mind but am very pleased to have such a fine lock waiting for something good.

Art DeCamp

[Roger B]

Does anyone have one of these on a gun or would an owner wish to provide an evaluation? I don't know what I do or don't like until I get some data to work with. This might be a good Pletch job.
Roger B.

[flinchrocket]

If there was a pic of the inside on their website I didn't see it. Without any shows going on I don't think many will get sold from the little information on the website.also, for $200 I wouldn't gamble on a lock I've never seen. Where's the video of it sparking? Perhaps he is still working on his website.

[sqrldog]

Liston probably gives a money back guarantee. If you buy a lock from him. Larry Zorne doesn't have a website but seems to sell a lot of locks. I've looked at the lock and see an application for it on late period flint rifles. Kentucky made rifles often have similar locks as do some other southern made rifles. Time will tell.

[sdilts]

For a pic of the inside, click on Shop Now. Pics of all his products come up. Click on the pic of the lock and 6 more views come up including the inside.

The one I have is very fast and a real sparker. It seems to be easy on flints as well.

[Darkhorse]

I think any lock that LC is putting his name on, or has any association with, will be a good lock. Years ago when locks were a mystery to me LC took the time to educate me and get me on the right track. The man knows his stuff.

Just viewed the website. I would like to try a lock with a roller on the frizzen and spring. But I doubt it will be one of these as I don't see a LH option listed.
Typical.

[Dennis Glazener]

I think any lock that LC is putting his name on, or has any association with, will be a good lock. Years ago when locks were a mystery to me LC took the time to educate me and get me on the right track. The man knows his stuff.

Just viewed the website. I would like to try a lock with a roller on the frizzen and spring. But I doubt it will be one of these as I don't see a LH option listed.
Typical.

Did LC design this lock? I thought this was Liston's endeavor?
Dennis

[Craig Wilcox]

With the short 4 7/8" length, and the height, given as 0.903", it is about small enough to use on a pistol.

Seems that most locks need a whole lot of work to actually be useable- Kibler's CNC'd locks and Larry Zorns' lock being the only exceptions I am aware of.

But all the others need a lot of filing and tuning to be used on a daily basis.

The locks mentioned in this thread is really no exception, and that is expected these days.  I'd be more than willing to try one out, especially with the fast lock time and sparking ability noted above.

[Mike Brooks]

I don't use locks that I have to work on to make work.

[Bob Roller]

Precise alignment and very close rotating tolerances PLUS a strong LIMBER mainspring
and NOT a STIFF mainspring will work really well.The trick is ACHIEVING this simple
function.The problems with many locks is the indifferent,get it "done"and out the door
and that is NOT the way to build any kind of favorable reputation.Reputation is to me
the important thing.There are a number of good flintlocks now and some are not seen in
advertising bit they are out there.As far as I know the last high quality caplocks were the copies
of the 3 and 4 screw English locks that I made and the last one was a Hawken lock with the
English mechanism similar to Taylor Sapergia's Lang rifle.Not traditional but a major upgrade.

Bob Roller

[Justin Urbantas]

Is it me, or is that a really short sear arm?

[sdilts]

Did LC design this lock? I thought this was Liston's endeavor?
Dennis

It's my understanding that LC and Liston collaborated on this. According to their website, LC is the technical advisor.

[Darkhorse]

I think any lock that LC is putting his name on, or has any association with, will be a good lock. Years ago when locks were a mystery to me LC took the time to educate me and get me on the right track. The man knows his stuff.

Just viewed the website. I would like to try a lock with a roller on the frizzen and spring. But I doubt it will be one of these as I don't see a LH option listed.
Typical.

Did LC design this lock? I thought this was Liston's endeavor?
Dennis

Dennis, I don't really know. It was an assumption I made after reading the OP. I tend to interpret a lot of things wrong these days and it gets worse every year.
DH

[BOB HILL]

I handled one of these locks last year in Lexington. In my opinion it's a fine lock and I don't think you'll have to work on it to use it. It was smooth as silk.
Bob

[RAT]

Opinions...

The bridal is all wrong for American work. Way too fancy. It's more appropriate for fine English work. How many here are making fine English rifles? I've never seen a photo of a lock from an American rifle with this style bridal.

Looking at the plate and cock, the castings look just as rough as others makers (Davis, Chambers, etc.). So it will take just as much time to clean up as any other lock on the market... but at a higher price.

The frizzen spring in a lump. Very ill-defined. Jim Chambers does the best job on frizzen springs.

In terms of higher quality, I'm just not seeing it. This seems equal to other locks on the market... certainly no problem with that... but for $20.00 more.

I haven't gotten a Kibler lock yet. Can't wait for his waterproof pan version. But from the photos of what he's put out so far, they are well worth the extra $50.00 over other makers.

[sdilts]

Is it me, or is that a really short sear arm?

On the one I just received, the sear arm measures .850 from the lockplate.

[bama]

Any lock that is built today is better than starting from scratch to make one. I would much prefer to do some minor fit and finish than start with some raw materials and have to make the whole thing. I recommend you get you some castings and just go through the process of assembling the castings and when you get through sell it for $200 dollars. I would be willing to bet in a short time we would be out of locks to use. Now I don't know much but I do know the last set of triggers I made by hand took me 40 hours and I am pretty sure making a lock by hand would take me at least 45 hours  . So quit your crying. We have needed a good round tailed flint for a long time and here one is, I for one will give it a try. All I want to know is, Mike where are you buying all of your locks, I have used mighty few that I have not had to do a little fit and finish to. Peace brother you do great work.

[Bob Roller]

Any lock that is built today is better than starting from scratch to make one. I would much prefer to do some minor fit and finish than start with some raw materials and have to make the whole thing. I recommend you get you some castings and just go through the process of assembling the castings and when you get through sell it for $200 dollars. I would be willing to bet in a short time we would be out of locks to use. Now I don't know much but I do know the last set of triggers I made by hand took me 40 hours and I am pretty sure making a lock by hand would take me at least 45 hours  . So quit your crying. We have needed a good round tailed flint for a long time and here one is, I for one will give it a try. All I want to know is, Mike where are you buying all of your locks, I have used mighty few that I have not had to do a little fit and finish to. Peace brother you do great work.

I think I "scratched"one time too many right before the last CLA show in Lexington and decided
then and there I was done.I have no plans to revive my lock work and will leave that line of work
to those who want to do it.As far as I now know there are no quality caplocks now made and I had
thought of it but decided that too is more than I want to now make.
Bob Roller