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Offline flatsguide

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J.P. Beck tang
« on: September 08, 2020, 04:23:37 AM »
Did Beck have a signature tang finial or was his tangs just squared off. Hard to find top views of rifles showing the tang area.
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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2020, 04:30:37 AM »
There are 3 pics in the library, but 2 are the same one I think.
« Last Edit: September 08, 2020, 04:45:14 AM by flinchrocket »

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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2020, 06:55:02 PM »
Here's one I did....



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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2020, 07:37:01 PM »
I recognize that Beck.
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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2020, 07:46:20 PM »
So you should.
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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2020, 08:25:56 PM »
Thanks guys! Looks like I have a bit of filing to do. Flinchrocket, I could not find the tangs in the ‘library’. Supergiant, nice looking carving.
Regards Richard

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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2020, 10:56:08 PM »
On the KRA XV disk, there are nine J P Beck rifles. On one rifle the tang is rectangular. Another rifle is rounded off like a half circle. Another rifle has no picture of the tang. There are six rifles which have the tang like the one Taylor built and shows above. However the little fingernail is probably about 3/8 inch longer and skinnier than what Taylor did. Personally, it's the stock profile that say's Beck to me. Hope this info helps.
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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2020, 04:47:51 AM »
Shaped tang is! I used a circle and ellipse template to lay out the patter on a piece of sheet brass to use as a pattern then transferred the outline to the tang. A bit of file work and the barrelis readyto send along with the blank to Dave Rase.





Thanks for the help folks.
Cheers Richard

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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2020, 05:04:50 AM »
Nice Work!

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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2020, 05:05:38 AM »
Richard, Gunsmiths of Lancaster County show 6 JP Beck guns including the tang view. They are all thumb nails, pg. 69-74. Also to file/shape your tang if you have any cut off barrel pieces tap it to accept your thread  of the breech plug. Gives you something to clamp in the vice and then you won't mark up your breech plug clamping it in the vice.  Steve

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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2020, 05:21:08 AM »
Thanks! The vise has soft aluminum jaw pads held on by small magnets.
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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2020, 05:25:57 AM »
Steven, that is a good idea about a section of barrel or just a nut of the correct size.
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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2020, 07:15:17 AM »
Well done. Looks just like an original.
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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2020, 07:16:57 PM »
David can speak for himself, but I don't think you need to install the tang and sent it along with the barrel.  All he needs is the barrel without the tang.  If fact, I think that tang is just something that he has to deal with, and is an item that can easily be lost in shipping etc.
Very uniform file work.  I like the square corner at the lug too.  Your rear lock bolt will almost certainly be completely within the lug, it being so deep.
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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2020, 06:41:14 AM »
Thanks for the kind words. Yesterday I sent Mr. Rase a pm and he informed me he does not inlet the tang as you said. The tang and barrel was made by Don Getz back in the early ‘80s. It is 60cal.
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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #15 on: September 10, 2020, 03:37:21 PM »
David can speak for himself, but I don't think you need to install the tang and sent it along with the barrel.  All he needs is the barrel without the tang.  If fact, I think that tang is just something that he has to deal with, and is an item that can easily be lost in shipping etc.
Very uniform file work.  I like the square corner at the lug too.  Your rear lock bolt will almost certainly be completely within the lug, it being so deep.
Yes, he is quite a filer. his filing on the inside that won't be seen is better than my outside where the whole world sees it.
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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2020, 05:09:10 PM »
If you are building a Beck, there are some really good photos of a signed J P Beck on Michael Simens 'Historical Antiques web page.

https://www.historicalarms.com/kentucky-rifles-for-sale/j-p-beck-kentucky-rifle-for-sale.html
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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2020, 05:47:22 AM »
Thanks for the nice words Mike! E.Smith, thank you for the link  to some nice photos of a nice Beck rifle, nice carving onthat rifle too.
Cheers Richard

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Re: J.P. Beck tang
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2020, 08:50:14 AM »
Your welcome, Flats. I am always on the lookout for photos of originals as well as well made contemporaries. I store them on a big old hard drive to refer to later.
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