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lentuk

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Drawing a fake knot around stock repair?
« on: November 21, 2020, 06:41:03 PM »
I have read of this being done, I am a new builder and of course I had a pin hole mishap, can anyone help me with disguising a small dowel repair?

Offline smylee grouch

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Re: Drawing a fake knot around stock repair?
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2020, 10:19:31 PM »
Use a piece of the same stock wood for the plug. If the wood is of light color stain the plug before you glue it in.

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Re: Drawing a fake knot around stock repair?
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2020, 10:28:56 PM »
Instead of using a dowel, take a small gouge ( I use a 9 sweep, about a 2 or 3 sweep) and cut a small groove lengthwise down the stock through the bad pinhole for about 1/2 inch. Then, using the same gouge, make an identical cut in a piece of matching scrap wood and save the piece you remove. Then, glue and clamp the replacement piece into your original groove. I hold it in place with tape, then tightly clamp it using Tite-Bond glue. The repair will be visible but will look like a knot or natural defect in the wood, not an obvious repair. I have never had someone identify a repair like this as anything other than natural wood. Using a dowel or toothpick to patch a misplaced hole looks like a completely rookie move and is obviously a repair of a screw up. Believe me, we all miss a pin hole from time to time.
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Re: Drawing a fake knot around stock repair?
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2020, 01:08:49 AM »
i would like to see one that has been done,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I have never "harvested" a critter but I have killed quite a few,,,,,,,,,,,

Offline A.Merrill

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Re: Drawing a fake knot around stock repair?
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2020, 01:54:54 AM »
   Deepcreekdale, that's a good idea.   Al
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Re: Drawing a fake knot around stock repair?
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2020, 04:18:29 AM »
   Deepcreekdale, that's a good idea.   Al
I’m going to try that if I ever make a mistake. Guffaw!  Ok, next time I make a mistake!
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Offline Jerry V Lape

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Re: Drawing a fake knot around stock repair?
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2020, 09:53:03 AM »
I like that #9 gouge idea.  I have a ugly grain defect in background of carving which I have been pondering for several days.  Have to experiment on a practice piece but I think that will work for me. Thanks for the tip!

Offline Pukka Bundook

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Re: Drawing a fake knot around stock repair?
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2020, 04:26:00 PM »
I'd stay with Smylees suggestion myself.  The bigger the fix area, the bigger the chance of a wreck...

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Re: Drawing a fake knot around stock repair?
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2020, 12:45:22 AM »
I repaired a hole in a stock by inletting a patch of matching wood.  The piece I selected had a little knot in it, so I inletted the knot.  The eye is drawn to the knot, rather than the inlay.

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Re: Drawing a fake knot around stock repair?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2020, 07:21:26 PM »
If I ever try to build a exhibition grade gun I’d certainly use Deep Creek Dales method. However I’ve allways used itty bitty plugs or simply dark stained epoxy to fix pin hole mishaps. I color the epoxy a frog hair darker than my anticipated finish color. If the Judges at Dixon’s either never spotted my fixes or chose not to comment about them in the critique on a couple of ribbon holding guns I built, then I’ll not worry about repaired pin holes. If repaired neatly. BJH
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Re: Drawing a fake knot around stock repair?
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2020, 03:20:11 AM »
Since Lentuk and Wolf had wanted to see some pics, I did a quick demo so you can see how I do this.



In this second shot, I used a 9 sweep, 3mm gouge to cut an irregular shaped divot over the hole I wanted to repair. You could use any small gouge you have, I like a 9 sweep just because is makes a deeper cut but it really is not necessary. I try to avoid making a straight cut and if possible, follow a grain line naturally in the wood.

I then repeat the process, making this cut as close as possible in shape to the first one and save the piece that is removed. It is difficult although not impossible to match the curl if you have a cutoff piece of your stock blank from the same area. I once did a repair in a piece of maple using cherry and it ended up looking exactly like a natural inclusion in the wood.

It should lay easily into the initial cutout you made.

I use Titebond glue and tape it in place, then clamp it tightly. I find the tape helps hold everything in place on a round forearm

Let dry completely, then sand and stain. As I said, it is visible but does not readily look like a repair. On the right is a hole repaired with a toothpick. To my taste, a regular shaped patch looks unnatural. Also, the method I outlined works better if you have chipped out wood, which you often get in restoration work. Hope this is helpful to everyone.
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Re: Drawing a fake knot around stock repair?
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2020, 03:44:56 AM »
The toothpick repair is on the left, sorry.
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