Another Screw Tip

[Tim Crosby]

 This horn is about 14" around the outside curve. The base is about 2 3/4" and is walnut. There is a turned horn band at the base. The collar is turned horn, the tip is also horn. Tip and horn are threaded 5/8 X 11.
 As always any comments are welcome. My reason for posting these is to get feedback and make adjustments as necessary. I once asked a Master Horner to critique a horn, he asked me "do you want the truth, I said "of course I do".

 Tim C..

[Brian]

At the "tip end" - is that turned collar threaded onto the horn - and then the tip threads into the collar?  Or is the collar pinned to the horn?

[Tim Crosby]

At the "tip end" - is that turned collar threaded onto the horn - and then the tip threads into the collar?  Or is the collar pinned to the horn?

The collar is a press fit and the tip threads into the horn. This is another variation of a screw tip, internal threads.

 Tim C.

[G. Elsenbeck]

A very nice representation of an Early Philadelphia screw tip Tim?  I see your earlier response to Brian that the internal threads are in the horn, not in the collar. 
Is the collar pinned and/or is there a plan for a staple in the collar as help to keep the collar in the position?  Again, would using only a leather strap attached in the throat area be secured enough without use of a staple? 
Overall, a very nice rendition.  I like it!
Tim, do you have a 'stand' to use?  Sometimes it's hard to get a feel for the horn shape when only laid against a background and use of a prop of some kind might help with improved definition.  About the only suggestion I can think of Tim. 
Gary

[Tim Crosby]

A very nice representation of an Early Philadelphia screw tip Tim?  I see your earlier response to Brian that the internal threads are in the horn, not in the collar. 
Is the collar pinned and/or is there a plan for a staple in the collar as help to keep the collar in the position?  Again, would using only a leather strap attached in the throat area be secured enough without use of a staple? 
Overall, a very nice rendition.  I like it!
Tim, do you have a 'stand' to use?  Sometimes it's hard to get a feel for the horn shape when only laid against a background and use of a prop of some kind might help with improved definition.  About the only suggestion I can think of Tim. 
Gary

  Yes it is a shot at a Berks Co style horn. As to a staple I would think the strap just below the  pressed on collar with the tip screwed in would hold. There could be a staple straight up that the strap could be attached to or I could pin the collar. I think I may be crossing or combining schools. Maybe somebody that knows will tell us.
  Like I say, I am learning as I go, I just need some direction. I would like to concentrate on screw tips and banded horns, with maybe a paneled horn thrown in once in a while.  Along with some very basic home made horns.

 Tim C.

PS: If you think a stand will help I will make one.TC

[Brian]

Thanks Tim.  I understand now.  So the pressed on collar, as well as being decorative, also acts to strengthen the horn at that point where it is threaded internally to accept the tip?

[Robby]

Tim, Very nice job!
    Robby

[Tim Crosby]

Thanks Tim.  I understand now.  So the pressed on collar, as well as being decorative, also acts to strengthen the horn at that point where it is threaded internally to accept the tip?

 Yes, that is my understanding of the collar. As I said I used 5/8 X 11 on this one but a 1/2 x 13 makes for a more slender neck.

 Tim C.