Waxing barrel opinion

[Idaho Wolf tracker]

I recently heard mention waxing a barrel where it is covered with stock for protection from rust. Any one have an opinion on or are doing it.

[D. Taylor Sapergia]

It certainly doesn't hurt to wax your barrel before setting it into the stock.  I remove my barrels for cleaning every time I shoot, and wax the steel and wood about every second time with a good floor wax.  The wood certainly likes it and the steel doesn't protest either.

[Daryl]

I also remove the barrels for cleaning, every time, no matter which rifle- pins or wedges.
I've never waxed the barrel nor have I don't anything to the stock wood - suppose I should
put some wax on the wood - wouldn't hurt. As to the barrel and wax, I see no reason to do this.
After drying and using WD40 in the tube, I wipe down the outside of the barrel with a larger swatch
of cleaning patch - Flannelette with WD40 on it. My hands get wet with the WD40, so handing the barrel
to replace it in the stock, does not remove the WD40 from it. I replace the stock, then re-wipe down the
outside of it, then store muzzle down.  There is NEVER any shelaced-on WD 40 left in the bore as some have
suggested. Never rusted a bore inside or out with this treatment, so I will continue with it.  We live in an area
with about a 50% humidity average yearly.

[Daniel Coats]

The Frank House longrifle I used to own had the barrel waxed in. I thought something was wrong with it at first.

[hanshi]

I don't routinely remove the barrel for cleaning.  But at some point early on with a new rifle I wax the barrel and seal the barrel channel with True Oil.

[flinchrocket]

I always take the barrel out to clean it. Wax the barrel + stock 2 or 3 times a year with Clay Smiths Dragon Wax.

[Idaho Wolf tracker]

I had never thought of doing it until I heard Bob mention it on Black powder TV.

I have a product called Boeshield T9 developed for the aircraft industry. Combination of wax and lubricants . Water proof lubrication that doesn't collect dust or dirt. I might give it a try

Thanks for the input

[Pukka Bundook]

Hardly ever take a barrel out of the stock unless it has a hooked breech.

I do the barrel channel and the barrel lower flats with deer tallow.  It'll last centuries if it has to!
Barrel channel is done with linseed oil before the deer tallow rubbed in.

[Bob McBride]

To me, I guess it depends on how rough you are on your guns and if you take the barrel out as part of your routine. I don’t like taking mine out much and I use them so much that at least two are loaded all the time during the hunting seasons, which is about 3/4s of the year around here. I’m pretty rough on mine. I use a light coat of RIG as a prophylactic. I have used a few types of wax recently on a few but haven’t had the time in to be able to tell how it works vs. a thin sheen of grease. No reason at all not to take the barrel out regularly if you’re not hamfisted as the Sapergias do, AFAIC. A warning about grease is if you’re putting it on thick enough it’s transferring to the wood you’re using too much. Wood doesn’t like it like it does wax. Wax or regular removal is probably a superior way to go.

[Darkhorse]

I routinely remove my barrels from the stock for cleaning, and these are pinned barrels. I also wax everything except the inside of the barrel. The wax doesn't need to be fancy, I use plain old Johnson's paste wax. When I come inside after hunting without having fired my rifle it is just so easy to take a soft cotton cloth and rub down the entire rifle, or at least all the metal parts, and feel safe that my rifle is well protected from the elements.
I started doing this over 10 years ago while glass bedding a CF rifle and I wanted more protection against fingerprints. I now wax all my firearms with no problems at all.

[Hungry Horse]

Life is just too short to be monkeying around taking out barrels that aren’t held in with a wedge, and have a hooked breech. Don’t you guys know your gun is never more vulnerable than when you have the barrel out. I wax the underside of my barrels with Johnson’s paste wax, and call it good. Besides, if you keep the darned thing pristine, the wife will never let you buy another one.

 Hungry Horse

[Daryl]

Been removing barrels for cleaning for 47 years - I've never considered it to be a big deal.
I remove the barrel and lock, leaving the rod in the pipes, clean them, put them back together, done.
Never damaged one when apart, can't be THAT tender 'cause I'm not the most graceful person around.

[Mike from OK]

Besides, if you keep the darned thing pristine, the wife will never let you buy another one.

Hard to argue with that logic.

Mike

[Daryl]

Besides, if you keep the darned thing pristine, the wife will never let you buy another one.

Hard to argue with that logic.

Mike

Who asks their wife if they can buy another one? That just doesn't make sense to me.
What you do with your mad money, is your business, isn't it?

[Pukka Bundook]

Like I said in another thread, if the stock isn't thin enough to scare you, it's not made right.
You Should be scared when you take it apart.  (Longrifle I mean)

Daryl my old pal, some have taken them apart , like you do, for a coons age, and some have left them greased up and in one piece for just as long;
Nobody is right or wrong, just following their own 'druthers.. and that isn't about to change.  :-)

[Daryl]

I guess all my guns are clubs, then.  2 of them were made by Taylor. Maybe he'll get it right in the future?
  I don't handle, that is, I don't wave them around when the barrel is not in them, nor do I walk on them,
throw them around, drop them on the floor or other wise abuse them when the barrel is out. A little care goes
a long way, it seems, or perhaps a long time. It have got 47 years of 'practice' at it.

[BillF/TRF]

I thought I could clean my rifle bore by plugging the vent hole, filling the bore with dilute solvent /water and then expelling the wash through the opened vent.  Each time I would get water under the muzzle cap and under the barrel at the breech--no matter how hard I tried to "diaper" those areas.  I noticed some rust on the barrel and wondered how long it would be before the wet wood becomes rotten?  Now I will remove the barrel each time I clean it and lub/wax the barrel/ stock regularly.

[Pukka Bundook]

Daryl,
You take things much too seriously.
It's not life threatening if someone does it different to you.    Maybe you don't scare as easy as me!    LOL.

It is good to take the barrel out to clean, and it is good to leave it in to clean. Both work my friend.
47 years is a long time.
I have been at it a long time too, 1970 with 'real muzzle-loaders, before that home-made, but That won't change anyone else's mind on how to do stuff, and it's not Meant to either.  :-)

Merry Christmas!!

R.

[Daryl]

You are right, Richard. My apologies to everyone IF anyone was offended.

I recall some time back, we were pretty much in this same conversation, to take the barrel out or not, for cleaning?
Barbie Chambers noted getting in a rifle for repairs and when they removed the barrel, it was badly rusted and pitted
beneath the stock line. Obviously it had never been removed for cleaning. It should have been, but if that's what you want,
go for it.
Wax or grease might help prevent that, for a while, anyway.

[Frank]

Life is just too short to be monkeying around taking out barrels that aren’t held in with a wedge, and have a hooked breech. Don’t you guys know your gun is never more vulnerable than when you have the barrel out. I wax the underside of my barrels with Johnson’s paste wax, and call it good. Besides, if you keep the darned thing pristine, the wife will never let you buy another one.

 Hungry Horse

Exactly!! Couldn't have said it better myself. If it ain't broke, don't need fixing.

[smylee grouch]

When I shoot in Arizona and plan on shooting the next day, I will clean with the barrel inn the stock but any place else I remove the barrels to clean and never hurt the stock.

[Bob McBride]

It's very easy to safely take the barrel out but I always get the urge to do it 3 beers in when I shouldn't. Never had a broken stock from taking the barrel out and never had more than surface rust under the stock from not. Since I've been waxing or greasing I've never had any rust to speak of, even after one gun that was left for 5 years before taking the barrel out. That said, if you shoot a lot and don't do anything you will have rust under there. No doubt about it.

[MuskratMike]

I don't remove the barrels but if I was to and hadn't done it before on a pinned barrel I would first watch Bob McBride's excellent you-tube video on how it's done. After watching the video several times and seeing how little wood there is on the forearm of a properly made rifle I think I will let mine stay where the are, safely nestled in the wood! Each to their own.
Merry Christmas,
Mike

[Idaho Wolf tracker]

Thanks for all the input fellas.

I think that I will likely wax and do a once a year tear down . Im shooting a off the rack traditions Kentucky so that may change

I tried to punch out the tenon pins this afternoon but quit because my punch wasn't long enough to get it done. I see why people don't like doing it

[Pukka Bundook]

Daryl,
You are a very good friend, and there is absolutely no need to apologize in case anyone gets offended.
If anyone Does get offended, that it their problem!

FWIW, the old Enfield rifles we don't talk about here had the inside of the stocks slathered with grease,  (I forget the name of it exactly right now, but similar properties to Castrol LM) and that worked as it should, could go Decades without a clean, but also leaving lightly oiled and cleaned often would also have worked, other than it messing with the bedding, and That is not a problem on a longrifle.

All the very best,
Richard.