This horn has grown on me. Initially, I didn't care for it, but the more I looked at it, the more I appreciated its design and the skill in turning. The symmetry between the tip and the plug is particularly appreciated as is how thin you got the tip around the edge of the threads. I realize that is why you needed the collar. Then there is the thin base band reflecting the deep groove in the base plug followed by those large beads. Those are wonderfully executed beads, not to mention the filler plug in the base plug. The very clean threads on the filler plug are an accomplishment in themselves. All in all a very nice horn that gets better the more I look at it.