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Offline mountainman70

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Hows this for a patchbox ?
« on: January 13, 2021, 04:36:14 AM »
Found this a few years back and just re discovered it. Anyone ever see this rifle? This is all I could find pic of. have a goodun, Dave 8) 8)


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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2021, 04:48:51 AM »
Dave this rifle is owned by a collector in TX and a brother to it is owned by a collector in southern IN. I am pretty sure both rifles have been shown here in the past.
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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2021, 05:02:51 AM »
That's pretty wild, the curl in the wood is fantastic also. Thanks for posting this Dave. I hadn't seen it before.

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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2021, 05:15:15 AM »
Thanks bro Sherman. How you tonight? I would like to see rest of this gun. Dave  8) 8)

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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2021, 05:51:47 AM »
Doing well bro Fortner.  Sitting in my shop playing with my fone instead of producing.  I think this gun can get away with the back action lock . It just ads to the funkyness of it. I haven't cared much for back action guns in the past but certain ones I'm beginning to appreciate.

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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2021, 05:55:36 AM »
Same here. I built one a few years back, using antique parts,and a Rayle 34 cal barrel. I should shoot it all the time. Scandlous accurate.
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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2021, 06:02:15 AM »
Just a little bit of snow here and there in the shade. Got till
End of Saturday to shoot more deer with the flintlock up here. Shot one first day, have been working in the shop since.
Gonna get back out with the fellas and finish filling the cupboard next few days

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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2021, 06:41:04 AM »
I have other photos. I’ll ask for permission to post
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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2021, 03:42:17 PM »
I own that rifle.   The hardware on the gun was painted black and the stock needed extensive restoration around the lock area.  The work has mostly been finished, just minor stuff left to be completed.  The rifle must have been a great shooter because the breech area was shortened about 1 1/2" due to heavy corrosion from the percussion caps.  Then, it was fired so much it now has very heavy corrosion again.  The inscription on the barrel reads, 'Wm. Miller The Shooter of Tenn. 1857'.








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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2021, 04:02:17 PM »
Cs, thanks for posting more pics. What an interesting ,
Unique rifle. Could you tell us some barrel dimensions and
Approximate caliber?

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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2021, 04:57:22 PM »
Cs, thanks for posting more pics. What an interesting ,
Unique rifle. Could you tell us some barrel dimensions and
Approximate caliber?

I forget, I'll have to measure it later today.

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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2021, 10:25:39 PM »
I love that one.  My favorite SMR especially with the barrel inscription.
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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2021, 10:32:55 PM »
Hey y'all, I have some pics from Moses White who has recently obtained a smr quite like this one, back action lock and all, cept patchbox different.
Would it be best to start a seperate thread for it? Thanks, Dave F 8) 8)

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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2021, 10:54:22 PM »
 I was told those guns with that style box, and comb covers were made by a East Tennessee smith named Sabbath.

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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2021, 03:43:43 AM »
How were they signed ? I drove over & saw Chris's rifle. It is nice. I own the other rifle & copied the style to build my grandson's rifle. I would love to hear about the third rifle. Howard

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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2021, 06:30:24 AM »
Just looking at it again,between sneezin fits, do you suppose a saw blade was used to make this unique side plates and finial? I would be of the type that would if I got the proper hair in the right place. A little help from the jug be ok, too. :-* :-*

Looks downright evil. Like the kind of blade one would expect Special Ops to use. 8)

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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2021, 06:45:47 PM »
  Mountain70 I reckon the teeth were made by a file. If ya look at them closely. They are inconsistent. Very cool patch box
 One of my favorites.

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Re: Hows this for a patchbox ?
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2021, 12:15:30 AM »
Roger that. Probly same one that made all the multi knuckled bo nanna patchboxes. hahaah. Dave :-* :-*