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New rifle purchased off gunbroker, origin??
« on: January 20, 2021, 06:10:29 AM »
Today I received an antique rifle that I purchased off gunbroker.com.
Specs on the gun are OAL is 52". Barrel is 15/16" x 37". Caliber is .34.
LOP is 13" and weight is about 10#. Lock is marked Ashmore Warranted.
The gun has a neat and interesting nose cap.
The seller said he bought the gun at a farm auction in Ohio about 10-12 years ago.
There are no markings on the barrel.
There are several brass inlays on the butt and forearm.

Do you guys have any ideas as to the maker and time period this rifle was made?
Seller guessed it's an Ohio gun based on where he purchased it.

Thanks for any help you can give me.
Dan













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Offline rustic39

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Re: New rifle purchased off gunbroker, origin??
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2021, 02:53:01 AM »
Ashmore apparently supplied locks for a number of gunsmiths. I have a boy's rifle so fitted - barrel is marked 'Tryon', for what that's worth. Inscription inside the lockplate cover is 'July 4, 1847'. All I have.

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Re: New rifle purchased off gunbroker, origin??
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2021, 06:14:21 AM »
Thanks for your reply. I appreciate it.

I've been surprised that no one has commented on the gun!
Maybe it's too generic looking to place to any area or maker.

Dan

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Re: New rifle purchased off gunbroker, origin??
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2021, 06:32:34 AM »
Dan, later percussion rifles were made from readily available parts. Folks were moving all over the country. So unless from New England or New York, a good many guns fall into the “could have been made from Philly to Michigan to Missouri to Kentucky to Ohio to Pennsylvania” category. Perhaps even further. Without a written signature or a few features that are distinctive, such guns are hard to place.
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Re: New rifle purchased off gunbroker, origin??
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2021, 07:16:41 AM »
Quite likely made in WVA, OH or WPA. The TG spur suggests Ohio strongly, but WVA guns had this feature, too. Look through the books and you may find a similar piece. As Rich explained
many parts were off the shelf items and available to many makers. Hence, you will find similarities on occasion that are not real. Thank you for letting us see it. It's a nice gun and well worth owing in my opinion.
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Re: New rifle purchased off gunbroker, origin??
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2021, 03:05:18 PM »
 The nose cap will be your key to the maker and origin of this piece, the cap is very distinctive. My humble opinion....
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Re: New rifle purchased off gunbroker, origin??
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2021, 05:23:36 PM »
Thanks for your comments as they are appreciated.

Cajun, yes, I've thought the nose piece is unique and that it might be indicative of a certain maker.

Rich, thanks for your comments. I'm sure you're right.

Offline Barry Myers

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Re: New rifle purchased off gunbroker, origin??
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2021, 12:53:01 AM »
As to the nose cap the Ragin Cajin talked about.  My .32 Trenton that I just asked a question about has the same (apparently) poured nose cap.  Trenton was the Trenton Machinery and Locomotive Co. (or something like that)


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Re: New rifle purchased off gunbroker, origin??
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2021, 01:40:56 AM »
I also have one with the same nose cap. Barrel marked T H Alison. No pics on hand but similar rifle
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Re: New rifle purchased off gunbroker, origin??
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2021, 03:10:57 AM »
This horse isn't quite dead yet!

I looked at the Trenton nose cap and saw that it has a lollipop  on the bottom too!  The nose cap also serves as the entry pipe so I guess your rifle doesn't have this.