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Offline Brokennock

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Semi-permanent rear site attachment?
« on: January 22, 2021, 03:23:11 AM »
I'd like to place what might be a temporary, but could turn out permanent, rear sight on my Tule FdC. I'm using an old brass rear sight off of an old rifle barrel. Not going to be dovetailing it as I'm not sure it will be kept.
I'm going to try it back really far compared to a rifle, more like a Type-G sight.





Thoughts on how to attach?
I'm leaning toward the low temp solder paste I have used to solder on some broken off barrel lugs.
Some have mentioned epoxy in the past. I'm concerned about how to remove the sight if I don't like it or need to replace it for some reason. And how to remove the epoxy once the sight is off.
Obviously heat will remove the soldered on sight. But, how to remove the solder at that point.
I'm sure either will hold the sight in place as long as I want it there. My concern is for ruining my barrel finish upon removal if I don't keep it.

So, epoxy or solder? Other?

Offline Greg Pennell

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Re: Semi-permanent rear site attachment?
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2021, 03:48:32 AM »
Loc-tite used to make a product called “Black Max”. It was a superglue type of adhesive that I used to glue Unertl scope blocks on to octagon barrels, for accuracy testing rifles that had only iron sights. When it was time to remove the blocks, heat from a heat gun would break the bond, and allow removal with no damage.

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Re: Semi-permanent rear site attachment?
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2021, 04:52:45 AM »
Plain old super glue will hold it.  Be sure to have flat close fitted surfaces and maintain firm pressure for at least 30 seconds.   I apply tip overlays to bows with this technique and they stay stuck.  :)
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Re: Semi-permanent rear site attachment?
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2021, 04:50:00 PM »
Thanks gentlemen.
I have 2 advocates for "Black Max" between this and another forum.
Question is,,,, can I find some locally.

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Re: Semi-permanent rear site attachment?
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2021, 05:56:29 PM »
Thanks gentlemen.
I have 2 advocates for "Black Max" between this and another forum.
Question is,,,, can I find some locally.

Most places don’t carry it. I had to Amazon it. I have a tube of Loc-Tite 380, it’s the same as Black Max. It’s sort of expensive so I’d be happy to send it to you and you can use your drop or two and sent it back. Say the word.

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Re: Semi-permanent rear site attachment?
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2021, 07:05:27 PM »
Makes the question, wonder if any fusils had rears? I know some of the English trade guns had ‘em. I also know that though today most buy the fusils and smoothies to shoot shot from them like a modern shotgun, they were actually more commonly used with a roundball in the 1700s.

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Re: Semi-permanent rear site attachment?
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2021, 08:12:21 PM »
dollar store super glue will last awhile.

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Re: Semi-permanent rear site attachment?
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2021, 08:21:38 PM »
Makes the question, wonder if any fusils had rears? I know some of the English trade guns had ‘em. I also know that though today most buy the fusils and smoothies to shoot shot from them like a modern shotgun, they were actually more commonly used with a roundball in the 1700s.

Dedicated fowling guns not generally, but plenty of smoothbore hunting guns had rear sights in Europe and the U.S.
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Re: Semi-permanent rear site attachment?
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2021, 08:58:38 PM »
There's a rear sight illustrated and described in our latest Muzzleloader Magazine, designed for smoothbores.  It features a sheet metal cap bent to fit the octagonal section of your fusil, secured to the barrel by a strip of three rare earth magnets, and looks like it would work really well.
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Re: Semi-permanent rear site attachment?
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2021, 09:16:33 PM »
The "muzzleblasts" sight could be easily made & easily attached and removed. Super glue, ie: Cyanoacrylate Glue is another method
that does not include making the magnet sight.  However, it is not as easily removed and replaced. 
I used hobby shop airplane Cyanoacrylate glue to attach a sight to my smoothbore for testing. It worked, so I guess it's semi-permanent.
After testing, I removed the sight.
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Re: Semi-permanent rear site attachment?
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2021, 11:24:49 PM »
Thanks gentlemen.
I have 2 advocates for "Black Max" between this and another forum.
Question is,,,, can I find some locally.

Most places don’t carry it. I had to Amazon it. I have a tube of Loc-Tite 380, it’s the same as Black Max. It’s sort of expensive so I’d be happy to send it to you and you can use your drop or two and sent it back. Say the word.

Thanks. Turns out Grainger and Jensen tool carry it for around 7 or 8 dollars. I have a Grainger near me.
It is only a 3 gram tube, but that is more than enough.
I have had a 3g tube of the green loctite that I use on the front sights of 1911s when I upgrade them, I've done several with that 1 tube and have plenty left.