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Gunsmiths of Lancaster County 1728-1863
« on: January 29, 2021, 03:19:42 PM »
As the title describes, attached you will find a list of gunsmiths working in Lancaster County during the referenced period.  I believe this list was distributed to members of our club by Mack Spencer, collector and past president of the KRA.  It's hard to believe this many gunmakers existed in one small area.  Enjoy!

https://americanlongrifles.org/PDF/Gunsmiths_of_Lancaster.pdf

« Last Edit: January 30, 2021, 12:29:43 AM by scottmc »
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Re: Gunsmiths of Lancaster County 1728-1863
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2021, 12:31:21 AM »
The link takes me to a book chapter on Leman guns only.
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Re: Gunsmiths of Lancaster County 1728-1863
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2021, 12:31:46 AM »
All good now.  I shuffled things around.
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Re: Gunsmiths of Lancaster County 1728-1863
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2021, 04:17:27 AM »
I would be cautious in using Mr. Dyke’s lists. I have not checked all the entries (of course), but the information about the two dozen or so gunsmiths that I know something about are all—each and every one—inaccurate. These lists are a good starting point, and are a considerable achievement given when Mr. Dyke was working. But I’d try to double check the information if it matters to you.
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Re: Gunsmiths of Lancaster County 1728-1863
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2021, 07:25:04 PM »
I would be cautious in using Mr. Dyke’s lists. I have not checked all the entries (of course), but the information about the two dozen or so gunsmiths that I know something about are all—each and every one—inaccurate. These lists are a good starting point, and are a considerable achievement given when Mr. Dyke was working. But I’d try to double check the information if it matters to you.

I wonder, would it be possible for you post a corrected list?
For those of us without research material its difficult to know accurate from inaccurate.
John
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Re: Gunsmiths of Lancaster County 1728-1863
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2021, 09:45:23 PM »
I would be cautious in using Mr. Dyke’s lists. I have not checked all the entries (of course), but the information about the two dozen or so gunsmiths that I know something about are all—each and every one—inaccurate. These lists are a good starting point, and are a considerable achievement given when Mr. Dyke was working. But I’d try to double check the information if it matters to you.

I wonder, would it be possible for you post a corrected list?
For those of us without research material its difficult to know accurate from inaccurate.
John


As a supplement, I typically refer to Whisker's booklet on Lancaster County makers ( $20 from Cornell publications). It has a wealth of information and some illustrations



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Re: Gunsmiths of Lancaster County 1728-1863
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2021, 11:00:57 PM »
Thanks for that, Olut,

I guess I should have said for those of us who don't have access to New information. I have pretty much all the primary books published on Long Rifles, but for the most part they all rely on old research.
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Re: Gunsmiths of Lancaster County 1728-1863
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2021, 12:47:46 AM »
I would be cautious in using Mr. Dyke’s lists. I have not checked all the entries (of course), but the information about the two dozen or so gunsmiths that I know something about are all—each and every one—inaccurate. These lists are a good starting point, and are a considerable achievement given when Mr. Dyke was working. But I’d try to double check the information if it matters to you.

I wonder, would it be possible for you post a corrected list?
For those of us without research material its difficult to know accurate from inaccurate.
John

I haven't made new lists--I just hope I've provided more accurate information in what I've published about the Lancaster gunsmiths I've studied: mostly various Henrys, the two Albrechts, Dickert--but also, more in passing, Foulkes, Breidenhart, Roessers/Reasors, Gonters, Graeffs, Fainot, J. D. Gill, Llewellyn.

Redoing this list in full would be a massive undertaking. I can't imagine anybody will do that. But reproducing the information in this list & others just passes on errors and makes them even more likely to persist. It's a problem; I have no solution!
Check out: The Lost Village of Christian's Spring
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Re: Gunsmiths of Lancaster County 1728-1863
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2021, 01:14:53 AM »
I agree 100% with Scott here.  Most likely, nobody is ever going to take the time to entirely update any or all of these old lists.  However, he's correct in that they (in general) are full of errors.  I can't speak to this Lancaster list with the authority with which that Scott or others may, but I can tell you that relative to old "lists" and books including information relative to Northampton county, I have found a ridiculous amount of errors and unverified information.  However, finding the errors is generally a piecemeal task that only occurs when researching, say, one or two particular gunsmiths and then realizing that what has been previously published is just plain wrong.

Many authors up through the 1960s and 1970s were relying almost solely on earlier 20th century research, and much of that was based simply upon the old 19th century popular county history books; they themselves are full of unverifiable information.  There are unfortunately authors even as recently as the last 20 years that are still engaging in the act of lazy regurgitation without question.

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Re: Gunsmiths of Lancaster County 1728-1863
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2021, 02:56:35 AM »
I'm elated to see lock makers listed.

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Re: Gunsmiths of Lancaster County 1728-1863
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2021, 02:32:07 PM »
However, finding the errors is generally a piecemeal task that only occurs when researching, say, one or two particular gunsmiths and then realizing that what has been previously published is just plain wrong.

Yes, this is my experience too, exactly.
Check out: The Lost Village of Christian's Spring
https://christiansbrunn.web.lehigh.edu/
And: The Earliest Moravian Work in the Mid-Atlantic: A Guide
https://www.moravianhistory.org/product-page/moravian-activity-in-the-mid-atlantic-guidebook