Author Topic: 24” Jaeger Rifle (Read 3917 times)

bierhaus31 · « **on:** January 30, 2021, 03:58:16 PM »

Ordered my barrel, looking for a stock either extra fancy or interesting figured maple, also looking for someone to inlet barrel and ramrod. I would like the stock shaped also. Please be kind as I am new to building.

Thank you

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2021, 04:27:22 PM »

Jeagers weren't stocked in maple. You don't want the stock shaped . The parts will dictate your shape.

smylee grouch · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2021, 04:47:11 PM »

Talk to Dave Keck at Knob Mt. Muzzleloading. He can inlet the barrel and do the ramrod hole and grove. The inleting and shaping is where you will learn the most on a first build.

Ron Scott · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2021, 05:31:14 PM »

Mike is correct, Walnut is your need. Try MLBS for authentic parts and some of the Huston Harrison drawings of Jaeger Rifles. Better yet, sign up for the NMLRA seminar on building Jaeger Rifles.

t.caster · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2021, 05:54:04 PM »

Who did you order a 24" Jaeger barrel from?? Is it straight or swamped? Caliber & rifling twist??

Tom C

FALout · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2021, 11:18:02 PM »

Yea, ive seen 31” long jeager barrels, but not a 24”

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2021, 01:12:00 AM »

Quote from: FALout on January 30, 2021, 11:18:02 PM

Yea, ive seen 31” long jeager barrels, but not a 24”

I have a 25" and a 34" in the corner. You can have them made any length you want

smokinbuck · « **Reply #7 on:** January 31, 2021, 01:19:28 AM »

I have a 31" swamped Gets barrel in the Jaeger I'm selling. LEFT HAND.

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #8 on:** January 31, 2021, 01:47:15 AM »

Quote from: smokinbuck on January 31, 2021, 01:19:28 AM

I have a 31" swamped Gets barrel in the Jaeger I'm selling. LEFT HAND.

How can you tell when a barrel is left handed? I can't find any hands on any of mine....

t.caster · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2021, 02:29:06 AM »

I have a 28" Coleraine Jaeger brrl. in .62 cal. I don't know if they still make them it was dang hard to find a couple years ago.

I would suppose the lefthand brrl. already has a touch hole installed on the left side. Or maybe the rifling spins CCW.

alacran · « **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2021, 03:06:38 PM »

Quote from: Mike Brooks on January 30, 2021, 04:27:22 PM

Jeagers weren't stocked in maple. You don't want the stock shaped . The parts will dictate your shape.

Jeagers were most certainly stocked in maple. In Steischloss Jaegerbuschen, by Erhard Wolf, there are 4 rifles made in maple "ahornholz".
Actually more than that because one of the numbered guns is actually 2 rifles 2 smooth bores and two pistols all out of maple.
They span the 1st half of the 18th century, to the second half of the 18th century, so it was not a fleeting fad.
I lent out my copy to friend last week or I would give the pages. There are 45 numbered guns in that book and ten percent of them are made out of maple.

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2021, 04:53:17 PM »

Quote from: alacran on January 31, 2021, 03:06:38 PM

Quote from: Mike Brooks on January 30, 2021, 04:27:22 PM
Jeagers weren't stocked in maple. You don't want the stock shaped . The parts will dictate your shape.
Jeagers were most certainly stocked in maple. In Steischloss Jaegerbuschen, by Erhard Wolf, there are 4 rifles made in maple "ahornholz".
Actually more than that because one of the numbered guns is actually 2 rifles 2 smooth bores and two pistols all out of maple.
They span the 1st half of the 18th century, to the second half of the 18th century, so it was not a fleeting fad.
I lent out my copy to friend last week or I would give the pages. There are 45 numbered guns in that book and ten percent of them are made out of maple.

That's quite a statement..... I would call maple stocked jeagers. incredibly rare at best.

Ron Scott · « **Reply #12 on:** January 31, 2021, 05:49:30 PM »

Yes, Erhard Wolf illustrates some Jaegers that are Maple , but the percentage in his book is not the norm. Of sixty odd original Germanic flintlocks I have owned or examined the only item stocked in Maple were a brace of pistols. My comments are offered in the hopes of encouraging the post originator to try building an authentically styled Jaeger. They are complex and parts are not cheap, but a nicely planned rifle is a joy to handle.

ronaldscottflintlock.com

Pukka Bundook · « **Reply #13 on:** January 31, 2021, 06:47:53 PM »

I'd say a good few more stocked in "fruitwood" than maple.
I wonder if the 'maple ' is actually sycamore?...common tree in Europe. Wood V near the same.
Violins backed with 'maple' are usually sycamore. same beautiful stripes.

Mike payne · « **Reply #14 on:** January 31, 2021, 07:19:18 PM »

I didn't think sycamore was good for anything.

smokinbuck · « **Reply #15 on:** January 31, 2021, 07:28:34 PM »

Mike,
The Jaeger itself is left hand, the barrel isn't for sale.

JLSawyer · « **Reply #16 on:** January 31, 2021, 07:48:06 PM »

Here’s a cute boys jaeger with a 14.5” barrel/27” overall that I found online this morning. Not flintlock but still pretty cool. Doesn’t look like walnut but I’m not sure. Maybe some type of fruitwood? I’ve been on a jaeger kick lately and like the simplistic overall design and mounts this one features.

https://www.aaawt.com/html/firearms/f581.html

Mike Brooks · « **Reply #17 on:** January 31, 2021, 11:55:40 PM »

Quote from: JLSawyer on January 31, 2021, 07:48:06 PM

Here’s a cute boys jaeger with a 14.5” barrel/27” overall that I found online this morning. Not flintlock but still pretty cool. Doesn’t look like walnut but I’m not sure. Maybe some type of fruitwood? I’ve been on a jaeger kick lately and like the simplistic overall design and mounts this one features.

https://www.aaawt.com/html/firearms/f581.html

I'm pretty sure that's a canoe gun.

hanshi · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2021, 12:23:58 AM »

My experience with sycamore was that it splintered a bit too easily.

JLSawyer · « **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2021, 01:31:59 AM »

Quote from: Mike Brooks on January 31, 2021, 11:55:40 PM

Quote from: JLSawyer on January 31, 2021, 07:48:06 PM
Here’s a cute boys jaeger with a 14.5” barrel/27” overall that I found online this morning. Not flintlock but still pretty cool. Doesn’t look like walnut but I’m not sure. Maybe some type of fruitwood? I’ve been on a jaeger kick lately and like the simplistic overall design and mounts this one features.

https://www.aaawt.com/html/firearms/f581.html
I'm pretty sure that's a canoe gun.

Mike,

Your guess is most certainly better than mine. I know absolutely nothing about jaegers. I bought Shumway’s book and I’m even more confused. Think I’ll let the Pennsylvania schools continue to be the root cause of my confusion for awhile before switching to guns built in other states let alone other continents.

Robert Wolfe · « **Reply #20 on:** February 01, 2021, 01:51:00 AM »

What Puka Bundook refers to as "sycamore" in Europe is not related to North American "sycamore." European "sycamore" is actually a maple (Acer pseudoplatanus).

Stophel · « **Reply #21 on:** February 01, 2021, 02:53:37 AM »

I think there's only a handful of gunsmiths today that have any kind of handle on just what a German rifle should look and feel like. Most of the attempts I have seen are, honestly, not even close. It takes lots of study and handling.

Not English · « **Reply #22 on:** February 01, 2021, 03:30:31 AM »

There were "American" jaegers. They were usually restocked jaegers or very early jaegers built prior to the development of the classic longrifle. In my opinion they are of North American origin rather than European.

Dave

JLSawyer · « **Reply #23 on:** February 01, 2021, 03:36:14 AM »

Quote from: Stophel on February 01, 2021, 02:53:37 AM

I think there's only a handful of gunsmiths today that have any kind of handle on just what a German rifle should look and feel like. Most of the attempts I have seen are, honestly, not even close. It takes lots of study and handling.

Stophel,

What sent me down this jaeger rabbit hole was a very inexpensive TOTW jaeger kit someone was selling on gunbroker. It was a complete impulse buy on my part and done so without the least bit of knowledge with regards to jaeger rifles. In fact before coming across the listing I had all but sworn off jaeger rifles and pretty much viewed them as short stubby ugly things but since buying it I can’t stop wanting to learn more. Unfortunately what I’m learning (the hard way mind you) is that the kit I bought is generic at best. The kit I purchased has a curly red maple stock and the typical components offered in TOTW jaeger kits. The price was right but the kit is not and now I’m stuck with it. I’m not sure what I’ll do with it. I may keep it, use it for practice and turn it into a decent little hunting gun or I may sell it and try to recoup my money. Time will tell.

B.Habermehl · « **Reply #24 on:** February 01, 2021, 03:49:04 AM »

Simple answer, build it and enjoy it. BJH

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