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Offline shifty

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First Shots 22 Cal ML
« on: February 23, 2021, 12:08:22 AM »

   Well I could not stand it any longer fired my little 22cal today. Wind was so gusty i could not keep the sights on target standing so i sat down and rested my elbows on my knees. I could only manage 2 shots at 25 yds they landed 15/16" between centers so i think i can get it to shoot ok. I was using a .216 di. 32 grn cupped base hollow point slug ,mink oil in the cupped base and 5grns of 3 F Goex . Now the testing begins for the right load.
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Offline Daryl

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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2021, 12:11:57 AM »
Is the bore .216"?
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2021, 01:41:24 AM »
Quote from: Daryl on February 23, 2021, 12:11:57 AM
Is the bore .216"?
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    Best i can measure it is .2155 .
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Offline Skychief

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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2021, 01:48:09 AM »
How easily did it clean up?
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2021, 01:54:39 AM »
I just received my .22 BP rifle.  I hope to shoot it tomorrow if the rain stops.  I got some 30 grain bullets from North American Arms that are used in their little .22 BP gun to try, and some 30 grain air rifle slugs sized .230 to try.  Will start with 5 grains of 4f and may work up to 10 grains depending on how it groups.
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2021, 02:09:00 AM »
These appear interesting, form the North American Arms web site.
No grease groove per-se' but the middle band for engraving should work.
I guess the cup base will hold lube.
.230" seems large.


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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2021, 02:20:13 AM »
Quote from: Skychief on February 23, 2021, 01:48:09 AM
How easily did it clean up?
 
    Real easy.
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2021, 02:25:15 AM »


  Does anyone know where you can buy a small powder measure  say o-40 grns capacity.
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2021, 02:28:38 AM »


    I will try a over bore size felt wad between powder and bullet next.



   Fyrstyk did you get my pm?
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2021, 02:32:02 AM »
Quote from: shifty on February 23, 2021, 02:25:15 AM
Does anyone know where you can buy a small powder measure  say o-40 grns capacity.

A lubed wad will assist in cleaner shooting.

right here.

https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/85/1/MA-050
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2021, 02:38:41 AM »

  Thanks Daryl !
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2021, 04:01:23 PM »
Quote from: shifty on February 23, 2021, 02:25:15 AM


  Does anyone know where you can buy a small powder measure  say o-40 grns capacity.

The adjustable measures for BP pistols go from 5-50 grains.  TOW and Dixie have them, maybe others too!
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Offline Levy

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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2021, 07:17:36 PM »
You might try the .22 felt cleaner wads for air rifles in your rifle.  James Levy
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2021, 07:43:37 PM »
That's a great idea, I will have to order some of them.
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2021, 08:25:22 PM »
Quote from: Levy on February 23, 2021, 07:17:36 PM
You might try the .22 felt cleaner wads for air rifles in your rifle.  James Levy

Good idea, James. They may require an increase in powder charge, to ensure the bullet obturates into the lands.
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2021, 04:39:56 PM »
Shifty
I use a .22 long rifle case with FFFg powder. Preset accurate in mine and will put a .22 lead pellet through a 3/4" board at about 30 feet, across the basement.
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2021, 06:09:27 PM »

  Smokinbuck , Have you ever tried 4F powder?
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2021, 08:02:01 PM »
I shot my .22 caliber BP rifle yesterday to see what loads and bullets it likes.  Tried the North American arms 30 grain bullets with 5 grains of 4f with mink oil lube in the bullet base cup.  At 25 yards I got alittle over 1" from the bench using peep sights.  I then tried 5 grains of 3f, grouping was slightly tighter, but about 1.5" lower.
Next I tried some 30 grain air rifle slugs from AVS.  These are spitzer shaped with a pin hole hollow point and a cupped base that I filled with mink oil lube.  5 grains of 4f gave me 3/4" groups @ 25 yards.  5 grains of 3f also grouped well, but once again about 1.5" lower.  There was a significant difference in the report of the two loads.  $f had a good crack, whereas the 3f was quieter.  More experimenting needed and maybe a higher powder charge?  Clean-up was straight forward using the barrel in a coffee can of warm soapy water method, Dry patching, then a patch with Barricade.  I did not have to swab between shots which sort of surprised me.  The last bullet went down as easy as the first.  Great fun!
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2021, 09:22:34 PM »
I have a 3/4" x 24" x .22 octagonal barrel That I've had so long I don't remember where it came from.  Now I know what I'm going to do with it.  I sure would like to see some pictures of you guys rifles.  James Levy
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2021, 09:48:19 PM »
 Fyrstyk - you don't need warm water nor soap. Just plain water will clean it as well.
Many soaps have salts or mild acids & are simply not needed. Tepid water (room temp at the most)
will work just fine, as-will cold tap water.
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2021, 01:56:59 AM »
Daryl-
I usually add a drop or two of Dawn dish washing soap to the warm tap water for cleaning.
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2021, 02:01:22 AM »
Shifty-

I did not get your PM.  Please send again.

Below are some pictures of my .22 BP rifle.  It has a .224 bore, so I am using .223 bullets for starters as I workout the best load and projectile.





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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2021, 02:19:02 AM »
I cannot express how neat I think these small caliber rifles are.
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2021, 03:03:13 AM »
   

     Fyrstyk, New pm sent your way.
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Re: First Shots 22 Cal ML
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2021, 10:56:26 PM »
A .22 calibre muzzleloading rifle, now that's pretty cool!
250 for $6.60 WOW - cheap.
https://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Gamo_Round_22_Cal_15_43_Grains_Lead_Balls_250ct/610
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