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Offline oldhunter1954

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Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« on: February 23, 2021, 06:14:05 PM »
I purchased the Colonial kit from Kibler. I see a lot of members engraving on the brass side plate, etc. I would like to experiment with this by buying a few pieces of brass to play with. I can buy brass plate just not sure what type and thickness of brass to purchase.
Thanks for the help.
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Offline martin9

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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2021, 06:23:09 PM »
If just for practice I don't think it matters a whole lot... as long as it's brass and thick enough for the graver not to punch through. 16 gauge or so oughta be fine.  doesn't have to be super thick though. You can always buy an extra sideplate from kibler also. After you've practiced on scrap you'll have 2 plates...just in case.
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Offline J. Talbert

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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2021, 06:51:35 PM »
FWIW consider that that gun doesn’t NEED any engraving. 
Nothing personal, but if this your first attempt at engraving I would weigh carefully whether that engraving is more likely to enhance or detract from the finished gun.  ( I’m speculating on your level of experience from the tenor of your question ;), I could be wrong?)

If it were me... I might hone my engraving skills on a lesser project.

Just sayin...
Best of luck,
Jeff
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Offline oldhunter1954

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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2021, 08:17:07 PM »
Quote from: J. Talbert on February 23, 2021, 06:51:35 PM
FWIW consider that that gun doesn’t NEED any engraving. 
Nothing personal, but if this your first attempt at engraving I would weigh carefully whether that engraving is more likely to enhance or detract from the finished gun.  ( I’m speculating on your level of experience from the tenor of your question ;), I could be wrong?)

If it were me... I might hone my engraving skills on a lesser project.

Just sayin...
Best of luck,
Jeff

No problem. This is my first build ever. I do not intend to add anything to the Kibler Colonial kit. I just became very curious when I saw the engraving by one of the members on here. I am semi retired so I have time on my hands to experiment and learn.
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Offline smylee grouch

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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2021, 08:40:14 PM »
Some of the muzzleloader supply outlets sell brass sheet in various thickness's and you can anneal them,screw them down and you have two sides to practice on. When your done you can form them into sight shadders.
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Offline Kevin Houlihan

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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2021, 09:12:57 PM »
260 brass—also referred to as cartridge brass, yellow brass, and 70/30 brass is good to practice on.  Available online from multiple sources.
Kevin
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Offline Hungry Horse

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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2021, 09:25:04 PM »
 Go to a scrap yard, or recycler, and look for commercial push plates, or kick plates off of old public buildings or schools. Some old government buildings had heavy rash thresholds for big double doors. They are great for engraving practice, and fabricating gun furniture, and patchboxes.

  Hungry Horse
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Offline BOB HILL

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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2021, 03:34:48 PM »
HH has it. Go to scrap yard. One door kick plate will be a lot of practice of practice. Use both sides. Not much outlay.
Bob
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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2021, 05:54:03 PM »
You can purchase sheet brass from tow . Log cabin shop has gravers. But before engraving a rifle you will probably need at least of 40 hrs of practice . for it to look decent . Unless your very gifted. Good carving and engraving placed on a well built rifle takes a 3k rifles and can make it worth 8k or more. On the other had poor carving and engraving can make it worth the parts that havent been botched up. Unless you are planning on building lots of guns ask around and pay a few bucks and to your investment rather than take away from it.


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Offline David Rase

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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2021, 06:13:50 PM »
Any 260 or cartridge type brass will work well for practice.  I get my sheet brass from Online metals.    https://www.onlinemetals.com/buy/material?q=%3Aprice-asc%3AMaterial%3ABrass%3AShape%3ASheet%252FPlate
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Offline Daniel Coats

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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2021, 07:20:27 PM »
Just about any hardware store sells sheet brass and cheap too.
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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2021, 07:57:39 PM »
Why not ask Mr. Kibler what type brass he uses? Then buy that type.

Not all brass is equal, some is soft, some is hard as a rock. Not all engraves equally, or as nicely.
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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2021, 05:31:02 PM »
Quote from: David Rase on February 28, 2021, 06:13:50 PM
Any 260 or cartridge type brass will work well for practice.  I get my sheet brass from Online metals.    https://www.onlinemetals.com/buy/material?q=%3Aprice-asc%3AMaterial%3ABrass%3AShape%3ASheet%252FPlate
David

David,

I'm afraid I don't know anything about different brass alloys.  Online Metals lists the alloys at this link as 260, 280, 353, 365, and 464.  Are they ranked from the hardest to the softest alloys?  And which would be your choice for making a patch box that was to be engraved?  Thanks.

Don Richards
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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2021, 05:54:29 PM »
260 brass will work fine.  Best of luck!

Jim
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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2021, 06:57:15 PM »
Quote from: moleeyes36 on March 01, 2021, 05:31:02 PM
Quote from: David Rase on February 28, 2021, 06:13:50 PM
Any 260 or cartridge type brass will work well for practice.  I get my sheet brass from Online metals.    https://www.onlinemetals.com/buy/material?q=%3Aprice-asc%3AMaterial%3ABrass%3AShape%3ASheet%252FPlate
David

David,

I'm afraid I don't know anything about different brass alloys.  Online Metals lists the alloys at this link as 260, 280, 353, 365, and 464.  Are they ranked from the hardest to the softest alloys?  And which would be your choice for making a patch box that was to be engraved?  Thanks.

Don Richards
I use 260 sheet brass pretty much exclusively.
David
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Offline Pete G.

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Re: Kibler Kit - Brass type help
« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2021, 09:28:23 PM »
Keep it simple, it can be supprising what a big difference a small amount of engraving can make.
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