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Offline Jim Kibler

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lock care and use
« on: March 22, 2021, 06:01:56 PM »
This is just a reminder to everyone and information for the newbies.  NEVER trip a lock without a flint or piece of wood in the jaw and the frizzen closed!!!  We have a lot of customers who are new to flintlocks and this has been a big problem as of late.  If you do this you will likely bend the top jaw screw.

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Re: lock care and use
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2021, 06:44:57 PM »
Thanks for the heads up, Jim. I'm new to building but not to flintlocks. I always knew not to do it, but I didn't know that bending the top jaw screw would be the result. I'm glad I found out this way  :)

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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2021, 07:43:15 PM »
I like to keep a cut chunk of one of this style pencil eraser in the jaws while building.  It will also keep one from accidently tripping a lock on ones hand or at least that's what my friend said.   ;D



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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2021, 08:32:41 PM »
I’ve done several guns in the past for chaireties, raffles, etc.. I don’t put a flint in the jaws for many reasons. I always put a flint shaped piece of wood painted black in the jaws. Anyway, some lucky winner got his gun home and shortly thereafter complained to my charity because his lock “just wouldn’t spark”. Go figure.....
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2021, 10:27:50 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2021, 10:38:43 PM »
That shows what your up against. :o

Offline Bob Roller

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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2021, 10:51:14 PM »
That shows what your up against. :o

Yep,
The cock stops dead and the top jaw screw keeps on moving.
No spark with wood flint?Geeogollywhiz!!Hooodathunkit on a
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Re: lock care and use
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2021, 11:21:08 PM »
Well that explains my bent screw.  Tried not to set off the lock when I was working on the trigger.  Did it once and didn’t think anything of it. When I was inserting the flint I noticed it was twisting a bit.  It still holds the flint tightly so I guess I’m good. ???  My frizzen was open.

Question for Jim.  Can I buy another screw just in case I have an issue?
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« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2021, 11:34:29 PM »
I put wood pieces in all my flintlocks because I got tired of cutting myself while cleaning. Besides my wife laughs at me when she bandages me up.......

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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2021, 11:55:20 PM »
I’ve done several guns in the past for chaireties, raffles, etc.. I don’t put a flint in the jaws for many reasons. I always put a flint shaped piece of wood painted black in the jaws. Anyway, some lucky winner got his gun home and shortly thereafter complained to my charity because his lock “just wouldn’t spark”. Go figure.....

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You HAVE to use a slower drying paint for that job ;D.
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Re: lock care and use
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2021, 01:15:52 AM »
I like to keep a cut chunk of one of this style pencil eraser in the jaws while building.  It will also keep one from accidently tripping a lock on ones hand or at least that's what my friend said.   ;D





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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2021, 02:01:42 AM »
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Bevel up for a late Ketland.  ;)


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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2021, 02:51:44 AM »
OBVIOUSLY ;)
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2021, 03:58:53 AM »
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2021, 04:28:21 AM »
No spark? Yep, seen it right off !!!  Pilgrims !!! lol Dave :-* :-*

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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2021, 10:30:22 PM »
Wayne, you have to use HARD wood for those black painted flints you are using brother!  😉

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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2021, 11:04:34 PM »
Bevel up or down?

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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2021, 11:06:49 PM »
I don’t want some unknowing doo-fuss clatching a sharp 5/8” inch flint into his/her hand. Believe it or not I have seen that happen. Lock clatchers and muzzle fingereres drive me plumb batty. Especially when they do it as if they have a right to OR acting as “experts”. 
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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2021, 03:22:45 PM »
Well that explains my bent screw.  Tried not to set off the lock when I was working on the trigger.  Did it once and didn’t think anything of it. When I was inserting the flint I noticed it was twisting a bit.  It still holds the flint tightly so I guess I’m good. ???  My frizzen was open.

Question for Jim.  Can I buy another screw just in case I have an issue?

No problem at all.  Just give us a call.  No charge.

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« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2021, 03:31:30 PM »
and muzzle fingereres drive me plumb batty. Especially when they do it as if they have a right to OR acting as “experts”.

 I never have understood that, I have thought about putting a coating on India Ink just inside the muzzle as kind of a prize. A little trap, like one of those Chinees finger traps or pin would work too.

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« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2021, 05:18:47 PM »
Lipstick in the muzzle would be a socially acceptable prank. I hear they even have black lipstick. Just to be clear, it’s not my color.
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« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2021, 05:20:53 PM »
Lipstick in the muzzle would be a socially acceptable prank. I hear they even have black lipstick. Just to be clear, it’s not my color.
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