Careful now, Mike Brooks and Wayne Estes are back - Kibler Kit Assembly Class

[snapper]

Great videos Ethan.     Thanks Mike and Wayne for teaching these classes.

Fleener

[MarkK]

Thanks to all involved with providing these videos .... primarily of course Mike, Wayne and Ethan. 

I do have a question regarding the fire blue finishing.  Can this same technique be used on a barrel?  If possible are there any negative reasons for trying it other than the longer (potentially much longer) time it would take. 

Since it was stated that the oil immersion is not needed for the process to work and the barrel would not have to be dunked.   

Currently working on the finish of a Kibler colonial rifle and am now considering using the technique for the steel parts.  Interested to know if the barrel can be included.  May not use it on the rifle but possibly a future pistol build?

MarkK

   

[Stoner creek]

We actually torch blued the barrel on that gun in the class. Just make sure that you don’t go past that deep violet color. We left the barrel to air cool (it took a while). No need to quench in oil. It only took 25-30 minutes to torch blue the barrel. My only comment on torch bluing is that it is not as durable as other barrel finishes.

[MarkK]

Wayne,

Thank you for answering question, sharing additional information and removing that sick feeling that I was possibly asking a stupid question.   

MarkK

[scottmc]

Ok, I just watched the video and ole 2ayne makes it look pretty easy with that checkering tool of his.  I've tried different things such as v parting tool and it's a little easier to mess up.  So Wayne, where'd you get that there checkering tool?  And dont tell us you made it🤣

[Craig Wilcox]

That checkering tool is called a "jointer".  Brownell's has their own line, but personally I like the one made by Gunline.

I used mine for years - it insures that your starting lines are nice and straight, as well as the border, if needed.  On longrifles, it makes a nice straight grove along the fore end or along the bottom of the stock parallel to that bottom line.  Eezy-peezy.

Unfortunately for you, Brownell's is currently out of stock on both their own AND Gunline's.  Their are other suppliers out there.  Somewhere.  Once in a great while, MidwayUSA has some checkering tools available,

I currently have an order in at Gunline for some scrapers.  They took the order and the money, when I checked Monday, they said they would "check on the order".  There are only two people there, you'd think he know if he made some scrapers or not.  Only credit cards, BTW - no PayPal.

[scottmc]

Thanks for that info Craig.  I'll check it out.  I have a checkering tool but it has more of a diamond shape bevel to the edges than the tool that Wayne was using.

[Stoner creek]

Ok, I just watched the video and ole 2ayne makes it look pretty easy with that checkering tool of his.  I've tried different things such as v parting tool and it's a little easier to mess up.  So Wayne, where'd you get that there checkering tool?  And dont tell us you made it🤣

I can’t remember for sure. It’s been around here for a long time. Maybe Mountain State Muzzleloading or Log Cabin shop. It’s just a simple one line cutter.

[scottmc]

Ok.  Thanks!  I'll be on the hunt for one.  Enjoyed your video.

[MarkK]

I ended up using the fire blue method for the small parts but ended up used a blueing solution for the barrel.  Both methods came out a dark blue/black. 

Plan to use fire blue method for a barrel in the future if for no reason but to see if I can do it.   

Thanks again Wayne.

[Stoner creek]

I didn’t mention this before and I’m not sure that it was mentioned in the video but I do not apply heat to the frizzen. I cold blue it so as not to interfere with the temper.

[Daryl]

Really good videos & very well explained during the various processes.