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Offline B.Barker

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Buzzard rifle patchbox
« on: May 21, 2021, 04:28:45 AM »
I've had some free time from babysitting and have spent some time in the shop. I made the patchbox and have it just about inlet into the stock. I was hoping to get the trigger guard forged out this week to but not sure it will happen. I went and got my first vaccine shot today and maybe feeling rotten tomorrow.




Offline Cades Cove Fiddler

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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2021, 04:59:50 AM »
 ;) ;)...  Yep Brian,.... sure looks like a buzzard,... !!!!,... keep posting progress,... I have never seen any of your work I didn't like,... !!!! ... CCF

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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2021, 06:21:35 AM »
"I have never seen any of your work I didn't like,... !!!! ... CCF."  Boy O boy I have. ;D

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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2021, 06:47:02 AM »
Some big boy in Paris, KY is salivating right now.
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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2021, 12:44:39 PM »
No buzzards in North America - only vultures.  Red head = turkey vulture, black head = black vulture.
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2021, 03:57:06 PM »
Gotta love it.
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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2021, 05:42:38 PM »
Here in Kentucky we call em bzzards.

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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2021, 05:50:28 PM »
 :o :o :o.... Craig,... don't know where you are from, but I never heard a buzzard called a "vulture" until I was a grown man and met a lady from California who had moved here to Tennessee and called a buzzard a "vulture",.... still don't know why she called it that,.. !!! .... regards,... CCF

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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2021, 06:01:58 PM »
Yep, I know a bunch of Buzzards. I seen several of them circling in TN a few weeks ago.  ;D

That is going to be a great rifle Brian.
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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2021, 06:19:18 PM »
:o :o :o.... Craig,... don't know where you are from, but I never heard a buzzard called a "vulture" until I was a grown man and met a lady from California who had moved here to Tennessee and called a buzzard a "vulture",.... still don't know why she called it that,.. !!! .... regards,... CCF

Here in Massachusetts there’s a bay called Buzzard’s Bay, but everybody calls the birds “vultures”. A few gents I worked with from the rural south referred to them as “buzzards”, though, and a man from rural Virginia called hawks “buzzards” as well. Seems I hear many southern folks say things like “down in the holler” still, whereas most people up here couldn’t identify that geographical feature whether it’s called a “holler” or a “hollow”.

I would guess that “buzzard” was the term generally used by the English and Scotch who settled North America, and is still the norm in regions where their cultural influence hasn’t been completely eroded, whereas in most parts of the country where local differences in accent, lexicon, etc have been pretty much entirely erased, people say “vulture.” I’m no etymologist though.

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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2021, 07:23:17 PM »
The term buzzard is commonly used in Kentucky and Indiana. We got great big buzzards.
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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2021, 07:26:25 PM »
Call buzzards buzzards here in Indiana also. I kinda like the name “Buzzard Rifle”
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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2021, 07:32:50 PM »
I do not know if there is or is not a bird species whose name is "buzzard".  I have a feeling that it is a colloquialism for a vulture.  As an example, we call gulls here "garbage geese" or "$#!++ hawks", but I know you won't find those terms used in "Birds of North America".
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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2021, 07:51:11 PM »
Awww - I call 'em buzzards too, but as a once-professional wildlife biologist, gotta get my pitch in someplace!  It is just a taxonomic differentiation for ornithologists.

Really think most folks except bird watchers call the beasts "buzzards".  The clean-up team, for sure, and they do a great job of taking care of road kills.  Up close, they really have an odor to them.
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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2021, 07:57:34 PM »
One old gal at a farm where we used to shoot gophers, used to say, "you boys (in our 60's) did pretty good. I can tell by the number of buzzards that come
to feed."  She was talking about crows and ravens.
We do have Turkey Vultures now & have had those since about 2006 or so.
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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2021, 08:39:28 PM »
No buzzards in North America - only vultures.  Red head = turkey vulture, black head = black vulture.

When has that ever stopped us creative Americans from calling things whatever we want?  ;D I went to high school in Orion (pronounced Or Ee In), work outside of Milan (pronounced My-len), etc. I never new buzzards were turkey vultures until I was an adult. We see them a lot in Illinois and Iowa. There is a sandbar near Buzzard's Ridge along the Maquoketa River that has been our designated lunch stop when canoeing since I was a toddler.

I look forward to seeing the completed rifle Brian. It's going to be a neat one.
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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2021, 09:22:44 PM »
Even partly finished, I can see a lot to like in that architecture Brian. Can't wait to see it finished.  God Bless,   Marc

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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2021, 10:15:30 PM »
My father who was a lifelong native of Northern California (the real Northern California, Modoc County) called them "Turkey Buzzards." Probably a mixture of "California-speak", and Indiana since Grandpa was born in Knox County, Indiana.
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2021, 11:33:39 PM »
In England, the term "buzzard" refers to a bird like our Redtailed Hawk.  Here, the term is indeed a colloquialism. 

A pair of Turkey Vultures uses the crawl space under my hunting cabin as a nest of sorts.  They raised two chicks there last summer.  I haven't checked on them this year.

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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2021, 11:37:35 PM »
I really like the architecture of that gun. What lock is that?

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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2021, 11:42:38 PM »
Here in Kentucky we call em bzzards.
As do we in Tennessee.

Have a friend out west nicknamed "Vulture".  I can't get used to that word--I has to call him "Buzzard" or his real name.

Also, the head coloration only applies to adults.  The Black Buzzards are such a pest our state officially neglects to prosecute anyone killing them-despite the fed regs.   Black ones have white wingtips when viewed from the underside, also a stockier body and a slightly narrower wingspan than the Turkey buzzards. Turkeys have the wide white band underneath from side to side along the back edge of the wingspread.

Scientific nomenclature is the safest bet when precision is needed, but I love the colors of dialects and common names (when not doing research of course).  :P

back to the buzzard box.  ;D
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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2021, 01:12:53 AM »
Is that article on the rifle from the Novermber 2007 MB issue? Couldn't fully make it out.
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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2021, 02:21:48 AM »
I think it's 2007, not sure and don't feel like walking over to the shop today. I also never heard a groundhog called a wood chuck until I was half way through grade school.

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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2021, 02:32:29 AM »
We’ve called them buzzards for as long as I can remember. Besides, we’re calling this one the “puking buzzard”.
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Re: Buzzard rifle patchbox
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2021, 03:30:17 AM »
Northern Michigan we call them buzzards.
Funniest thing I seen was to Turkey hunters trying to sneak up on five of them in a field.
Guess those city folk didn't know the difference. Watched them from two hundred yards away. The buzzards were feeding on a road kill. We laughed our buts off.    Oldtravler