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Offline paulitus

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Newly completed long rifle
« on: August 10, 2021, 08:01:41 PM »
Hi everyone, just posted this one for sale, thought I would share it here, as well, I order to benefit from your insightful comments😎


















Offline Big Bubba

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Re: Newly completed long rifle
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2021, 08:05:13 PM »
Very nice!

Offline hawkeye

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Re: Newly completed long rifle
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2021, 08:14:40 PM »
Indeed very nice rifle and job you are.
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Re: Newly completed long rifle
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2021, 06:25:43 AM »
Nicely done.
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Re: Newly completed long rifle
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2021, 03:37:54 PM »
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Butt plate edge is too thick.
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Re: Newly completed long rifle
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2021, 04:36:57 PM »
Hi,
You did a nice job and made an attractive rifle.  You asked for insightful comments and I'll suggest some constructive ones.
1.  The lock moldings have too tight a radius.  They look to have been cut into the stock before the wrist and lock areas were brought to almost final shape.  You did a nice job keeping the flats thin around the lock.  That helps a lot.
2.  It may be just the angle of the photos but the comb seems to have a hump in it about mid way.  That may be because the comb is fairly straight from the butt plate and then the curve starts to arc downward about mid way creating the illusion of a hump.  I think the arc should begin much closer to the butt plate.
3.  Your carving needs sculpting.  You outlined the shapes and cleaned up the background very well.  However, the carving is very flat, and in a monochrome wood like black walnut, that 2 dimensional quality does not stand out very well or create visual interest. See how the 3-D shaping creates interest even without any stain or finish on the rifle below.





 Also some of the curves are rough and need to be smoothed.  A good edge filing riffler would help a lot to clean up the curves.
   


4.  Your patch box is superbly designed, made, and inlet.  The thin silver wire does not add much to it.  It gets lost in the brown walnut.  I would use thicker wire, perhaps 0.010" to 0.014" wire for the border.  Same for the wire inlay under the cheek piece.  Also a simple device that would add a lot to the wire are silver dots in the middle of each curve like a nick and dot border.  That alone would jazz up the wire inlay a lot and make more of a visual statement that is also historically consistent.

5.  The rear ramrod pipe tang looks too wide to me and the ramrod groove needs moldings.

These are just my opinions and you made a nice gun.   I hope to see more from you.

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Re: Newly completed long rifle
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2021, 05:43:08 PM »
Mike and Dave, thanks that’s what I’m looking for. Dave can you elaborate a little more on item number one Re: the lock moldings. I’m not quite sure what you mean.

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Re: Newly completed long rifle
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2021, 01:25:11 AM »
Mike and Dave, thanks that’s what I’m looking for. Dave can you elaborate a little more on item number one Re: the lock moldings. I’m not quite sure what you mean.
Hi,
Yeah, you bet.  In your third photo showing the wrist and rear of the lock panel, the molding around the tail of the lock and blending into the beaver tail has a very deep cove shape.  It looks like it was cut with a narrow gouge or shaped with a rat tailed file.  It stands up above the wrist kind of like a picture frame pasted to the stock rather than something flowing from the stock.  Most Lehighs and most other rifle from other schools I've seen do not have such prominent coves or moldings.  The molding is created by shaping the wrist, which forms the lock and side plate panels naturally without much need to cut the edge of the molding in with a gouge or file.  The photo below shows what I mean. 
       






I shape the rear of the panels during the process of shaping the wrist creating the contours of the stock around the panels.  Then I incise a line around the edge of the molding or stab in a very shallow edge and relieve the background.  However, the contour of the actual molding is just an extension of the contours of the wrist and lock area.  It isn't cut in with a chisel or round file and it blends smoothly into the neck of the beaver beaver tail . 

The photos below show one process I use.  I shape the wrist and lock panels almost to final dimensions before ever thinking of cutting the moldings.  Then I outline the shape, stab in the outline and relieve the background creating a slight edge. Clean it up and blend the tail of the flat into the beaver tail apron. The contour of the molding is essentially that of the stock.  No gouge or rat tailed file used here, for the front of the molding, yes, but not for the rear.











Here is another example.



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Re: Newly completed long rifle
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2021, 03:17:58 PM »
Perfect, thanks.

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Re: Newly completed long rifle
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2021, 08:06:11 PM »
Since I am not qualified to point out or suggest anything about the build I won't even try.  I will say that I'd be happy to be the owner and I like it.
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Re: Newly completed long rifle
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2021, 04:47:28 AM »
I'd like to ask the more experienced builders for their opinion but, as soon as I saw the grain near the comb, I thought the wood looked poor for carving.