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Offline Shreckmeister

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Rock Island Auction
« on: September 14, 2021, 09:17:07 PM »
What happened to the Eister, Bonewitz and Dickert?  Did they not sell?
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Re: Rock Island Auction
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2021, 11:12:08 PM »
When you click on the above individual guns, each one states "sold on site" with a value below the bottom of the estimated range.  Shelby Gallien

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Re: Rock Island Auction
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2021, 11:29:08 PM »
I wonder why they didn't report that on their list of results.  Thanks for the info.
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Re: Rock Island Auction
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2021, 11:55:01 PM »
You'd think that with an estimate of around $40K they could have taken decent pictures of the rifles. 


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Re: Rock Island Auction
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2021, 12:52:16 AM »
I wonder why they didn't report that on their list of results.  Thanks for the info.

The Dickert does have a "Price Realized" posted of $21 k+. The Bonewitz and Eister rifles do not have a "Price Realized" number posted.

https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/83/1121/revolutionary-war-era-jacob-dickert-flintlock-american-longrifle
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Re: Rock Island Auction
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2021, 03:45:32 AM »
when I bring them up, they show the Bonewitz sold for 35K and the Eister for 32.5K, which I think is floor price before premiums. Shelby Gallien

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Re: Rock Island Auction
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2021, 05:00:42 AM »
Shelby,

The Proxibid site gives a $ number to "On site" for the Bonewitz and Eister rifles, but the RIA site does not give either a "Price Realized" number.

Kind of odd. Maybe something is going on behind the scenes at RIA wit the bidders.

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Re: Rock Island Auction
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2021, 12:46:36 AM »
This isn't unique to RIAC.

Proxibid, Invaluable, and other external auction sites often list "sold to the floor" prices for lots that did not sell at auction. I'm assuming it is just that their systems record the last "bid" before the lot was closed/passed. Regardless, it is generally a good idea to check auction houses' published prices realized for accurate data.
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