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Offline Not English

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Swivel Gun Touch Hole Size
« on: September 23, 2021, 04:39:43 AM »
I've recently succumbed to the "big gun" bug and purchased a 1" bore swivel gun. It needs to have the touch hole drilled. Can anyone advise me of a touch hole diameter  to start? I do not plan on using fuse, but do plan on 3f for priming and "slow fuse" for ignition and priming.

Thanks in advance,
Dave

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Offline Daryl

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Re: Swivel Gun Touch Hole Size
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2021, 07:30:50 PM »
1/16" inch or .0625" works for me.
"It needs to have the touch hole drilled"
Is this a "Made in India Gun", per chance?
Daryl

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Re: Swivel Gun Touch Hole Size
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2021, 08:09:52 PM »
 On the little 1 1/4” bore deck gun I had I made a touch hole liner out of a piece of stainless allthread in case the touch hole burned out, and I had to repair it. It never burned out, and I doubt the guy I sold it to has had to replace it.

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Re: Swivel Gun Touch Hole Size
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2021, 08:30:52 PM »
NE: start with a 1/16" drill bit.  Try to fire the gun.  If it fails to fire, or is super slow, enlarge it by 1/64" at a time until you get reliable ignition.  Don't worry about instant ignition, just reliable fire.  You may have to go as high as 1/8" which is the size of some original Brown Bess muskets I've examined.
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Offline Daryl

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Re: Swivel Gun Touch Hole Size
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2021, 10:14:06 PM »
Didn't think about it at the time, but if solid walled, the vent hole will be long & slow ignition.
Making a vent liner would be a good idea, that way, it can be hollowed out on the inside.
Note that these big bores develop VERY low pressure with even elephant-sized loads of 12 to 16 drams.
After all, it is a 4 bore, more or less.

12drams = 328 gr.
16drams = 437 gr.
Daryl

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Re: Swivel Gun Touch Hole Size
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2021, 03:16:00 PM »
By a swivel gun, I'm assuming it's much like a small cannon.  Mine has a touch hole on the top , located about 3/ 16th's " ahead of the breach face. The touch hole is 5 / 64ths " and there is an oval surround of brass silver soldered to the barrel. This brass piece is counter bored and the concave area of about 1 / 4 in in diameter goes right down and actually into the barrel a small bit.
This allows a priming of powder to be used , without weakening the touch hole walls .  The ignition is quick and reliable with the touch of the match cord. 

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Re: Swivel Gun Touch Hole Size
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2021, 02:24:51 AM »
Hey all, Thanks for all the helpful information. Daryl, It's not a "Made in India". It was actually cast By Manitowoc Grey Iron. It's a small cannon on a naval carriage. It has a cone cast into the touch hole. The touch hole has not been drilled through the the barrel liner. I plan on fabbing a monkey tail and fork so I can mount it on a post. The fellow club member I bought it from has offered powder and instructional help. I don't think he has ever fired it because  he said it was just sitting in the garage and collecting dust. and could use the space. He's got 3 other cannon that I know of and several muzzleloaders as well.

Dave

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Re: Swivel Gun Touch Hole Size
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2021, 05:58:40 AM »
If the vent isn't drilled, he hasn't fired it. Mounting it on a post would be cool!
Daryl

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