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Offline JLayne

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Simple tang carving ideas
« on: September 20, 2021, 12:49:22 PM »
I am reaching the finishing stages on a Kibler Colonial and am thinking about trying some carving for the first time. Kit is too nice to screw up by getting too ambitious on a first attempt, so I was thinking about limiting the carving to some lock and side panel beavertail moldings and possibly something simple around the tang. I am looking for photos of simple tang carving a beginner should be able to pull off to give me some ideas, if anybody has some they could share.

Thanks in advance.
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Offline Bill Raby

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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2021, 01:22:43 PM »
   Skip the whole simple for a beginner idea. Pick a design that you like instead of one you think you will be able to do. Then get a maple board and give it a try on that. Keep at it until you can do it. If it just won't work, at least you will get an idea of what you are capable of and can work from there. People seem to be capable of more than they realize at first.

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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2021, 01:24:48 PM »
Hereís a simple ďapronĒ from a fowler.



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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2021, 02:01:36 PM »
Hi,
Here is a design that is not hard to do but looks great, has some sophistication, and is from an original long rifle:







I've carved it several times and it just requires a small (1/16-3/32"") flat chisel for stabbing in, a small flat skew chisel, a small shallow gouge, and a "V" chisel. A small rounded scraper is also useful.

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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2021, 07:15:56 PM »
Shown is a design that looks difficult but really isn't ....just takes some patience. I like it because it really adds something to the rear of the tang......Fred




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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2021, 07:22:52 PM »
Check out rifle #19 from Shumway's "Rifles of Colonial America". Simple, yet graceful. The beavertail around the tang perfectly compliments the beavertails around the lock and side plate panels.
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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2021, 08:31:55 PM »
This is a simple design that looks good. You can use incise lines vs the wire inlay at the finial.

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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2021, 10:50:58 AM »
Having been a "beginning" carver I want you to give you my take on carving.   Beginning carvers need stay away from that rifle and begin practicing a lot.  They also need to carefully examine the work of good originals or of current builders who have mastered carving.  I couldn't really understand the carving until that perspective was gained and in my case took a class from one of the best carvers of the day (same guy who produced your kit.)  It also advanced my building skills. So get a couple practice butt stocks of hard curly maple and draw whatever pattern you like. Kibler sells a practice kit complete with a buttstock and a three dimension example.  If you can't get to a class the carving kit should help.     

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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2021, 03:42:18 PM »
Check out rifle #19 from Shumway's "Rifles of Colonial America". Simple, yet graceful. The beavertail around the tang perfectly compliments the beavertails around the lock and side plate panels.

Great suggestion, Bob. Some of these other designs are easy for the experienced carver but could be a nightmare for a true beginner.
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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2021, 03:52:19 PM »
I'm wondering if practicing on an old baseball bat would be 'somewhat' appropriate for carving practice?? Like I was told years back when
considering what to try and practice on for checkering?? use the various arcs provided by the bat to simulate setting up and making the cuts.
Lots of old cracked and abused maple bats hanging out in garage sales and even antique stores.

Just thinking out loud, and maybe it'd help someone?

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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2021, 08:52:49 PM »
Here is a simpler type that isnít too complicated, but adds a lot.




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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2021, 04:22:14 AM »
Here is my first attempt at a simple carving. Make some mock ups of the tang area and practice until you feel comfortable. Itís still nerve wracking to take a chisel to a real stock for the first time! Good luck


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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2021, 08:15:37 AM »
CooleyS- judging by the grain structure in that wrist, I'd be very careful how much pressure you put on that stock in a vertical direction.
Cool carving, BTW.
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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2021, 03:52:04 PM »
And Cooley, I like the sharp, definitive line around the lock.  Really separates the lock panel from the base rifle.  Wood has a real nice stain, look sbeautiful, but as Mike says, beware of vertical pressure in that area.
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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2021, 09:27:42 PM »
Mike? ;D
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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2021, 12:17:56 AM »
OK, Daryl - -  -ain't Mike your middle name?  OK, had a mental lapse.  Sorreee.

Cooley, you still need to watch vertical pressure, but there are a ton of similar wrists rolling about without problem.
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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2021, 02:10:33 PM »
Nice samples.

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Re: Simple tang carving ideas
« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2021, 09:52:19 PM »
OK, Daryl - -  -ain't Mike your middle name?  OK, had a mental lapse.  Sorreee.

Cooley, you still need to watch vertical pressure, but there are a ton of similar wrists rolling about without problem.

Maple has pretty good early/late growth "glue", not as good as hickory, but better than ash and red oak.
LOL on the "lapse'. I do that sometimes, too. ;D
Daryl

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