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Offline Marcruger

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BP Hoarding
« on: October 07, 2021, 06:23:05 PM »
I was just musing about how some folks are screaming "HOARDING" lately.  I don't have a greyhound in this fight as I am not currently looking for or purchasing BP. 

If someone 2 years ago ordered 10 pounds of black powder, folks would have said, "Oh you're a smart shopper."

Today if someone buys 10 pounds of powder and tells folks, the scream is "hoarding!"

All about timing. 

I am not talking about (to me) unpleasant characters to clean out whatever stock they can find of a commodity they don't use, and then resell at a huge markup.  In my personal opinion, that is pretty predatory, capitalism factored in. 

I sort of compare it to the old joke, "What's the difference in archaeology and grave robbery?  Oh, about 100 years."  All about timing. 

Just thinking out loud.    Marc
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Offline AZshot

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2021, 06:40:52 PM »
I definitely went and bought the last can they had at my local store last week.  I have 1 and 1/2 cans currently at home.  Waiting for them to run out then "hoping" I can buy replacements was not a smart move, seeing what happened to all other reloading commodities the last year.   I shoot about a can a year....So I will keep about 2 cans at the ready. 
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Offline rich pierce

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2021, 08:39:48 PM »
Good time to get a peashooter for plinking and target work! 35 grains of powder getting 200 shots a pound sounds pretty good.
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Offline Frank

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2021, 08:46:56 PM »
Quote from: rich pierce on October 07, 2021, 08:39:48 PM
Good time to get a peashooter for plinking and target work! 35 grains of powder getting 200 shots a pound sounds pretty good.

Yep, I was going to buy a Kibler 45 caliber SMR to go with my Kibler 40 caliber SMR. Think I will just make do with my 40. Also looks like the Kibler Trade gun may be out as well, unless some company picks up the slack. Sorry Jim.
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Offline Bassdog1

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2021, 09:21:22 PM »
My 32s shoot 15 grains of powder so over 450 shots per pound. They definitely help stretch out powder when its hard to get.
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Offline Bob Roller

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2021, 09:35:06 PM »
Quote from: rich pierce on October 07, 2021, 08:39:48 PM
Good time to get a peashooter for plinking and target work! 35 grains of powder getting 200 shots a pound sounds pretty good.

Has anyone tested these calibers that are under 45 @ 100 yards on a calm day?
A feeble mind wants to know.
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Offline Bob McBride

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2021, 11:25:51 PM »
Sipping at a trough because it has a hole in it will make for a mighty parched tomorrow.
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Offline Jeff Murray

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2021, 11:48:08 PM »
To Bob's question regarding 100 yard tests, I have shot silhouettes with my 32 out to 75 yards and was surprised that it will knock down the pigs.  Have not tried rams at 100 yet.  I do shoot a heavy load due to the slow 1 in 66 twist and the outstanding accuracy the load delivers.  (50 grains 3F)
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Offline MuskratMike

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2021, 12:17:25 AM »
My 40 Kibler SMR shoots excellent at 100 yards I have not tried my 32 out much past 50 but it is sighted for 30 years and really makes the steel squirrel targets dance. I have not done serious testing of the 40 at 100 but a month or so ago there was a bright orange clay trap target lying on the sand bank at the 100 yard line. Just for shucks and grins I asked another shooter to see how close I come to hitting it. I set my sights right on it and with my 60 grain load of GOEX 3F a .395 grease patched round ball going at 1720 f.p.s. I shattered the clay bird on the first shot. So ended my shooting at 100 yards.
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Offline Daryl

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2021, 01:55:08 AM »
Quote from: rich pierce on October 07, 2021, 08:39:48 PM
Good time to get a peashooter for plinking and target work! 35 grains of powder getting 200 shots a pound sounds pretty good.

Taylor and I were discussing that when we were at the range, he with his .60 and me with my .69.
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Offline Ghillie

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2021, 02:40:57 AM »
I have shot a .32 caliber since @ 1972.  I won my first 1st place ribbon with it at 100 yards using 60 grains of 3F.  I used 30 gr. at 25 and 50 yards and 60 at 100 yards.  Never had a problem with wind or such.  My longest shot was a groundhog at 125 yards.  I still have the hide that was tanned @ 1975.  The ball took it under the ear on the left side, cut the spine and was laying under the hide on the right side.  I've killed my limit of squirrels with it multiple times.  A fun and cheap gun to shoot.  It has been my most fun muzzleloader to shoot over the years.  I currently own from .32 caliber up to .58 caliber flinters.
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Offline Bassdog1

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2021, 03:40:36 AM »
Shoot my 32s a lot at 50 yards but never really tried out to 100. Have some time off next week so may try it. My Seneca Cherokee have  fast 1 in 30 rifling so I will try and bump the charge up a little bit at a time and see how they do.
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Offline bob in the woods

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2021, 03:04:14 PM »
We had a fellow at our club who always shot a .36 .   60 gr of powder was his load for 100 yards and he was a real contender .  I have shot my .40 out to 100 yards, and it will hold it's own easily.
The difference is that I can use enough powder to get the velocity which helps to counter the wind
Most of the large bore shooters don't do that
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Offline okawbow

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2021, 03:55:05 PM »
I have a .30 caliber squirrel rifle that shoots great with 15 grains 3f. I get over 350 shots per pound of powder and more than 200 per pound of lead. Now, if I can find a flint that gives a few hundred shots, I’ll be set.

I’m thinking about how to make a good looking muzzleloading air rifle.
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Offline Ezra

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2021, 06:24:10 PM »
I suppose we could trade toilet paper for black powder. 8)

Ez
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Offline Panzerschwein

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2021, 06:54:42 PM »
I’ll have mine soon. Ordered 10 lbs of Graf’s. That will bring me to 22lbs total.
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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2021, 09:14:16 PM »
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Offline Bob McBride

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2021, 09:16:55 PM »
It is perfectly legal to make black powder at home in the US but yes, we don’t discuss the making of here.
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Offline Woodland

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2021, 01:47:58 AM »
When I read about the plant shutdown on here, I will admit to having driven around our county to the gun shops and buying powder.  I had about 3/4 of a pound each of 2f and 3f.  I was foolishly waiting for the supply to increase before I bought more.  I wound up all together with 18 lbs of 2f and 5 lbs of 3f by the end of the day.  I felt bad for hoarding, but I have no plans to sell it for a profit, and I felt it would be wise to prepare for a drought.  Call me a hoarder if you want, but it is what I did, and I stand by it.

Jon
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Offline Daryl

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2021, 03:12:45 AM »
Jon - if anyone or shop here in town had BP for sale, I would buy it.
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Offline Woodland

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2021, 04:09:47 AM »
Daryl, It says you are in B.C.  Im right across the line.  There’s powder in Whatcom county if you can cross the border.  I heard it’s open now, right?  If you get in a real pinch, you can come shoot some of mine!

Jon
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Offline BigAl52

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2021, 04:43:45 AM »
More powder is coming. Im going to keep shooting my 54.
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Offline B.Barker

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2021, 05:07:20 AM »
I guess my 25 pound order was super hoarding. Been a few years since I did that and glad now I did. I would like some more fffg but I can wait.
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Offline Marcruger

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2021, 01:02:26 PM »
Re-read my original post Brian.  You would fit in the “smart shopper” category.  🙂
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Offline Daryl

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Re: BP Hoarding
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2021, 07:25:44 PM »
Quote from: Woodland on October 09, 2021, 04:09:47 AM
Daryl, It says you are in B.C.  Im right across the line.  There’s powder in Whatcom county if you can cross the border.  I heard it’s open now, right?  If you get in a real pinch, you can come shoot some of mine!

Jon

Thanks for the invite, Jon. Very nice of you. PG is 500miles North of the 49th.
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