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Offline DMacKay

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Patch Lube?
« on: October 14, 2021, 05:47:22 PM »
I’m a little newer to black powder, there seem to be a ton of options. I’ve read a lot of historical accounts referencing bear oil. I would like to know among other questions is that a good lube or just what they had available.
What do you use and why?

Offline Hungry Horse

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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2021, 06:07:28 PM »
 It’s probably one of the best patch lubes, but venison tallow, or mutton tallow, is a good close second.

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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2021, 06:14:36 PM »
I would agree with HH as I have used all three, with bear oil/greese and deer my most used lube.

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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2021, 06:15:09 PM »
I use Liquid Wrench Penetrating Oil (Oh, the HORROR). I use it because it gives me better accuracy than any of the many lubes I've tried and, as a bonus, I have no rust problems if I don't clean the bore for a day or three after shooting.

I use the "dry lube" method with it. Soak a stack of patches with it. Wrap the stack in some paper towels and squeeze the bundle to take up the excess oil. The patches will feel almost dry and are pleasant to use. And no, the fouling is no different (or less) than other lubes I've used and cleaning isn't any more difficult.
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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2021, 12:23:48 AM »
The Mr Flintlock Lube is really good stuff for target and range work.  It is a wet lube.  It also does a super job as your final cleaning stage, as it gets the graphite out of the barrel.  Few other cleaners will do that.  Lehigh Valley Lube will also cut graphite, but they are out of business. 

For hunting 100% mink oil from Track of the Wolf will not hurt your bore or contaminate the powder over the course of a day.  It's obviously not a wet lube. 

If you are looking for historically correct products, think about how your current barrel is made versus 250 years ago.  Much of what we do now is not historically correct.  Not many folks forging a wrought iron barrel from a skelp these days.  Just something to ponder. 

God Bless,   Marc

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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2021, 02:07:39 AM »
Marc, A very good way to look at different lubes. I have pretty much used them all. I can’t tell any difference in bear lube to mink oil. I also, like using the Wonder Lube Liquid. With care, cleaning needs to be thorough. As been said before, hot water and dawn dish liquid has been used for sometime. Thanks Marc. Jerry

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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2021, 04:21:24 AM »
I use a dry lube approach using a 1:7 solution of Ballistol:water.  I soak the  strips of patches (I use pillow ticking) in the solution and lay the strips out flat on a plastic counter top or table to dry.  I always end up with at least a 3” group with 1.5 X the caliber powder charge.  I generally use a ball .005” under the bore size.  If I have a hard time starting the ball,  I go down .010”.

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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2021, 02:05:57 PM »
3 inch group at what distance?
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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2021, 02:33:19 PM »
3 inch group at what distance?

50 yards.   I always shoot from a bench at 50 yards.    Actually,  my eyesight is usually the limiting factor in my groups.   I have a very hard time seeing open sights.  The gun almost always shoots better than I can.

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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2021, 01:11:54 AM »
canola oil , clean shooting  .

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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2021, 01:40:46 PM »
     Murphy's oil soap cut about 50% w/ water.  shoots 25-30 shots w/o cleaning, cleans easily when done---and no bears to skin...
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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2021, 05:53:14 PM »
I've been using Wonder Lube, pre-lubed and the paste. It seems to work well for target and hunting.

Have also tried Sno Seal in the past. It worked well but seemed to leave a waxy deposit in the barrel.

And don't forget to read your patches after you shoot, they will give you good information about the correct thickness and lube for your particular gun.

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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2021, 12:42:41 AM »
I think I’ve tried about all of the popular lubes. I settled on Simple Green detergent for casual shooting and Olive or Canola oil for hunting. My eyesight is the real limitation.  BJH
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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2021, 03:11:27 AM »
JB Weld fast setting epoxy works a peach as well….

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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2021, 03:18:52 PM »
JB Weld fast setting epoxy works a peach as well….
Don’t that gum up the barrel? ;D :o :'(

Offline Greg Pennell

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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2021, 03:33:28 PM »
Like most of you guys, I’ve probably tried everything under the sun.  For me, I’ve settled on two…spit for range shooting, and Track’s mink oil for hunting.  I’ve yet to run out of the first, and always have it with me. The second works as good as anything I’ve tried, and a tin lasts a long time.

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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2021, 05:42:49 PM »
Same here Greg

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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2021, 06:22:15 PM »
Tallow >>>-->mine is mutton/ lamb,  melt it in double boiler dip patching squeese out extra, dry slightly greasy feel shoots great & does not go bad as other as other fats(red ;) coats/english used it for over 200 yrs)

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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2021, 03:49:02 PM »
I've been using a Ballistol:water combination, about 1:3 or 1:4.  Seems to work very well.  I have some old Neats Foot Oil that still looks good, so I may try that sometime.  But if it isn't broken, I see little reason to mess with it. 
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Re: Patch Lube?
« Reply #19 on: October 18, 2021, 08:29:15 PM »
I only use the oils or greases for hunting with the ML, which hasn't happened for a number of years.
I use a water soluble oil or WWWF+ a tich of Neetsfoot Oil, or spit for target work. I find ALL of those
work pretty much identically & shoot with the same loads, in my rifles, roughly 5 to 10gr. LESS than the
oils or greases used in hunting loads need.
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