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Offline t.caster

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Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« on: November 21, 2021, 10:29:57 PM »
I just finished up this Christian Oerter, 1774 Christian's Spring/Moravian rifle and sent it to it's new home in Pa.
Young Mr. Oerter didn't do a lot of carving on these rifle but he made up for it with lots of silver wire where the carving would normally be. There are 6-8 similar rifles still existing. This was a different and challenging build for me because I love to carve, but the wire work (sterling silver) while intimidating to start, was fun once I got it going. It uses a Colerain .50 cal x 42" brrl. and Chambers Chr. Spring flintlock, Davis dbl. set triggers and kinda soft curly maple stock blank with brass furniture. Aqua fortis with honey maple stain was applied with a sealer and Tru-oil finish that was rubbed down with rotten stone and LO. to smooth and cut the high gloss. Barrel and lock got some light browning to show a little age.


















Tom C.

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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2021, 10:34:14 PM »
Well done. A pleasure to see a gun like that.
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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2021, 10:52:24 PM »
Very nice!

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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2021, 11:19:01 PM »
 Dang Tom, That is Beautiful, I have always liked the "Sturdy" for lack of a better word look of the C.S. work. Somebody is going to be Very Happy.

    Tim


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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2021, 12:28:12 AM »
Nicely done!
Very credible representation.

I like it,
Jeff
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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2021, 01:16:15 AM »
Nifty.
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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2021, 01:48:00 AM »
Very nice work.

Offline hortonstn

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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2021, 03:08:07 AM »
Beautiful As always

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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2021, 03:10:34 AM »
Very well done.  Your wire work really pops with that warm finish.

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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2021, 12:08:14 PM »
Very well done Tom!  Your wire inlays are inspiring! 
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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2021, 11:25:58 PM »
Great looking rifle Tom. Your wire work looks top notch.
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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2021, 11:57:26 PM »
This is an amazing rifle. Tom is a true craftsman; the wirework is excellent. The stock, a perfect patina. Well done, sir. You deserve a victory lap!!

Thank you,
Allen

Offline t.caster

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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2021, 01:57:40 AM »
Thanks everyone, that was so much fun to build I have a chance to build another one someday.
Tom C.

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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2021, 06:34:06 PM »
Here is something that might spark a controversy. My client wanted me to put my name on the barrel just like Oerter did with Christian's Spring and date of 1774. First off Oerter used stamps that I don't have and I thought it unethical. I compromised and engraved my name and C. S. 1774~2021 so someone down the road wouldn't try to pass it off as an original from that time period. The sunlight doesn't show the 2021 very well, but it is there.
I also engrave my name and "in MICH." and date-serial no. bottom flat of barrel as is my normal practice.


Tom C.

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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2021, 06:44:38 PM »
I like the way you signed the top of the barrel. I think Oerter engraved his as well. It would be tough to stamp letters that big.
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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2021, 08:10:17 PM »
Yep, engraved, as I remember.
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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2021, 01:28:02 AM »
Re Christian Oerter's signatures, we need to look at each one carefully, and they vary. The Oerter found recently in Germany, his rifle for Hankinson and the rifle in Windsor Castle use a few stamps - I and P, and possibly C. The I is then used to make T, H, N and so on, and a return added to the P makes R. The C, if a stamp, then makes a G.

Trying to carefully copy signatures with both uniform stamps plus the engraving is quite a challenge! Bob

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Re: Finished CH. OERTER 1774
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2021, 03:42:56 AM »
Beautiful rifle.  Very well done.  Thanks for sharing. 

Ken
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