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Offline Feltwad

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UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« on: June 21, 2022, 12:10:56 AM »
Enclosed is a image of a s/b flintlock sporting gun by Conway circa 1810
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2022, 01:14:28 AM »
Felt wadding,

Thanks for posting the photo. Do you uave close ups of the lock? Does the gun have a cheek piece?

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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2022, 02:15:51 AM »
Very nice. Looks like a large bore
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2022, 03:37:23 AM »
What a beauty and with all the English expertise and execution! Thank you for showing it here.
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2022, 04:19:49 AM »
I agree, English quality and yes it looks to be a large bore. Thanks for the view.  :)

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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2022, 05:30:44 AM »
Thanks for posting Feltwad. I can readily see the the influence of the english guns in our long rifles and later Hawkins. I look forward to more.
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2022, 09:38:05 AM »
Yes the gun is a large bore  about a 8 but closer to a 7. There is no cheek piece  the barrel is  twist oct too round  ,sometime in its life span the steel  or frizzen has bee soled  see images
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2022, 02:16:11 PM »
Certainly a shooter and a keeper.Top of the line all the way and thanks for posting this.
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2022, 03:52:29 PM »
I'd love to shoot some sporting clays with that gun. Thanks for the pictures Felty.
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2022, 04:02:07 PM »
I'd love to shoot some sporting clays with that gun. Thanks for the pictures Felty.
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2022, 04:16:12 PM »
My kind of gun!  English stuff makes American long rifles look a bit crude, which I also like!
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2022, 06:08:14 PM »
I'd love to shoot some sporting clays with that gun. Thanks for the pictures Felty.
Regular 1 and 1/8 oz of shot? Pattern would look like a pancake flying through the air!
At least 1 5/8 oz. Or more if you're feeling froggy.
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2022, 07:43:11 PM »
I agree, English quality and yes it looks to be a large bore. Thanks for the view.  :)

I always enjoy the appearance of these guns on the forum.Long established world class craftsmanship from
across the "pond"and always welcome.
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2022, 08:14:38 PM »
The recessed breech plug and standing breech is awesome!  See how much it reinforces that fragile bit of stock wood around the lock bolt.
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2022, 11:30:18 PM »
That's the first offside rebated breech I have seen on a flintlock. Also the first one I think I've seen on a fowler. A fascinating piece.

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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2022, 12:05:37 AM »
That's the first offside rebated breech I have seen on a flintlock. Also the first one I think I've seen on a fowler. A fascinating piece.

Mike
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2022, 12:20:05 AM »
I have only seen them on percussion rifles.  Nice to actually see a flint gun with one. A nice big bore rifle with a clipped tail lock like that one has would be nice.

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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2022, 01:43:45 PM »
That lock plate can be represented by simply altering an L&R 900 and then making a custom mechanism like the 14 I made for the Twigg a few years go.
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2022, 02:42:27 AM »
That is a special gun, Feltwad.  Does the barrel transition to 16 sided, before the bands and going round,
like this 11 bore cap gun?
Ahh- I see it does in an enlarged 1st picture. Nice.
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2022, 03:26:57 AM »
My kind of gun!  English stuff makes American long rifles look a bit crude, which I also like!
Mine too and I did make some fancy Stanton style caplocks thanks to the generosity of Lynton McKenzie.
Also the Twiggs with an upgraded mechanism.The Brits had sophisticated shops and no end of fine tools
which was not the case in American shops for a very long time. and the skill shown in this fine gun is just
one more to admire.Utility combined with need was the American way.There are no Hawken rifles with a
high grade lock and no need for them was seen in our shops then or now.
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Re: UK Flintlock Sporting Gun
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2022, 04:34:42 AM »
Feltwad,

A wonderful piece.  Thanks for sharing it with us.

Ron
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