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Offline bones92

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Henry Nock fowler
« on: January 19, 2022, 11:52:38 PM »
There's an interesting fowler made by Henry Nock on Gunbroker... the butt stock seems to have been adapted sometime after it was made.    Looks in pretty good shape for being so old. 
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Re: Henry Nock fowler
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2022, 12:40:25 AM »
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Re: Henry Nock fowler
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2022, 01:24:42 AM »
YIKES! :o Probably modified to shoot olyphonts
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Re: Henry Nock fowler
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2022, 05:18:58 PM »
OK, I'll address the olyphont in the room, Why? Looks like an old stock was converted. Interesting but a bit odd.
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Re: Henry Nock fowler
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2022, 06:21:45 PM »
Henry Nock

ANTIQUE FLINTLOCK FOWLER MUSKET BY HENRY NOCK, LONDON 1773 - 1806.

THE STOCK WAS EITHER REPAIRED OR ADDED TO DURING THE PERIOD OF USAGE AND LIKELY COLONY DONE AS THE ADDED PIECES ARE IN NEW ENGLAND CHERRY WOOD.

A LARGE CALIBER OF ABOUT .75 AND HAS A "WEDDING RING" AND TWIN "KEEPER" ABOUT 57" LONG WITH A 40" BARREL, MAKER MARKED AS IS THE LOCK PLATE.

ENGRAVED BRASS, TRIGGER GUARD, RAMROD PIPE & BUTTPLATE, GERMAN SILVER EXCUSSIONS FITTED WITH PEWTER NOSE CAP.

Many thanks to “BARSALOW AUCTION” for the pictures.




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Re: Henry Nock fowler
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2022, 07:13:04 PM »
Nocks patent breech Trade Label
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Re: Henry Nock fowler
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2022, 10:34:10 PM »
Guns converted for shooting large dangerous game in Africa, tended to be of larger (much larger) bore than 11 (.750") or 12 (.730").
However, those sizes appeared to be used in India more often, than Africa. imho
Francis Selous used a couple shortened 4 bore Dutch fowlers for elephant, for example.
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Re: Henry Nock fowler
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2022, 11:06:48 PM »
Tooguns, yep, that's the same fowler...  http://www.littlegun.info/arme%20britannique/artisan%20m%20n%20o/a%20nock%20gb.htm

I bid on it only because I knew it was something special, although I'm really not knowledgeable of these kinds of long arms.  Hope someone here got it... It sold for $511, which I think is probably a good deal for such a cool historic piece.
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Re: Henry Nock fowler
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2022, 11:53:30 PM »
Hi, Please allow me to introduce myself. I am the new owner of this Henry Nock Fowler. It is my first antique flintlock. I had an Armsport .50 cal. Kentucky rifle and currently a Miroku Brown Bess. I haven't done anything yet with the Nock except to sit looking at it. The lock works perfectly (haven't tried it with a flint yet). Will most likely start by having the barrel checked out while I ponder what to do with that club butt alteration on the stock. All advice or opinions welcome. Bill Snyder

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Re: Henry Nock fowler
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2022, 02:58:21 AM »
Bill, That is a really neat gun.  I believe the stock restoration would be appropriate and result in an excellent example of the early 19th century English fowler.
If that was my gun I would be talking with Frank house about the restoration.
« Last Edit: February 19, 2022, 05:51:45 PM by heinz »
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Re: Henry Nock fowler
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2022, 03:57:24 PM »
I agree with Heinz above on all counts,  Bill.

As and when, I'd love you to show us close ups of the dismounted lock, inside and out.  also lock recess.

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Re: Henry Nock fowler
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2022, 04:06:34 PM »
That lock is about 98% same as a good number I made for a German shop.Mine had the roller on the frizzen instead of the spring.
I also would like to see the back side of the lock plate where the "engine" is.
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Re: Henry Nock fowler
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2022, 03:53:20 AM »
Right now there is construction-related debris on and around my workbench, but I am expecting to have it cleared and do a break-down of the gun in a day or two. I'm hoping to find the London proof marks where I can't see them now. I will take pix and post them then. I want to take a "ship of Theseus" approach and preserve as much originality as possible, but would like this to be a functional piece when I'm done.