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Offline bowkill

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buck ridge flintlocks
« on: January 30, 2022, 08:23:09 AM »
Anyone ever used their locks? Dont look as good as chambers, but i could be wrong... ???
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Offline Tim Ault

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Re: buck ridge flintlocks
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2022, 06:06:10 PM »
My only purchase from them was a double set trigger . I honestly wasn’t real impressed, functional but I did a good bit of polishing to get them to where I was happy . I expected better . Their locks might be a different quality level

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Re: buck ridge flintlocks
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2022, 03:22:15 AM »
I've built several guns using these locks, including my own personal rifle. Mine is smooth, throws a lot of sparks and is easy on flints. Pretty much everything you could ask for.  Another plus is that you know Liston Rice will stand behind his products.

I've also used several of the double set triggers. In my experience, they are as good or better than any trigger out there.

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Re: buck ridge flintlocks
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2022, 04:03:09 AM »
Hi,
I'll be honest, I am not impressed.  Here is an example showing how the sear moves up and down as the lock is cocked making it impossible to fit a simple trigger without rattle.




 
Moreover, the design of the tumbler and stirrup is poor so that the lock provides no mechanical advantage when pulled from half to full cock like a real Nock designed lock would.  It is not a close copy of any "Nock"  lock.

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Re: buck ridge flintlocks
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2022, 03:49:56 AM »
Dave,
Your post got my curiosity up so I took a look at the lock that I will be using on the next build as I will be using a simple trigger. I just got the lock last month from Liston. When cocked from the at rest position, the sear moved just a hair more than 1/2mm. Cocking to halfcock the sear did not change position. Cocking further to full cock the sear did not change position. Looks like it should work fine. I'm wondering if you may have one of the first run of locks?

I also looked at some other locks I have - Chambers, L&R, Roller. The sear position changed on each when going to halfcock then changed again when going to fullcock.

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Re: buck ridge flintlocks
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2022, 04:20:00 AM »
Hi,
Put a piece of tape in place and take some photos so we can see.  My lock was a replacement because the first lock had the claw of the mainspring dropping below the lock plate.  I sent it back and Rice sent me a fixed version but the sear moved up and down as I photographed. The bridle pinches the sear so I have to make sure the sear screw is not too tight.  At the very least, they have some quality control problems to navigate but let me be clear, this lock bears no resemblance inside or out to a real Nock lock.  Not even close.

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Offline Bob Roller

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Re: buck ridge flintlocks
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2022, 03:26:34 PM »
The tumbler arm and link connection look weak to me.How much pressure does the mainspring exert on cocking?
The locks I sent to Helmut Mohr in Germany were a very close copy of the Nock that Lynton McKenzie sent me to
study in the late `1970's.I got the moulds for the plate,cock and frizzen from TOW and rejected the flimsy mechanism
and the curly bridle as being no value at all.The mechanism I  copied was from a John Manton that was,as Tom Dawson said,
all business and no frills.It was my favorite in the L&R small Manton and so far,no complaints about it.The real lock is the
mechanism behind the plate and that is what must be carefully made.I gave the moulds for these parts I used to M&G Shop
several years ago and as far as I know there has been no lock of any kind developed from them.
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Re: buck ridge flintlocks
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2022, 03:06:08 AM »
Hi Dave, here's the photos you requested.