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Offline Marcruger

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Jaeger Gun and General Patton
« on: March 03, 2022, 06:39:41 PM »
I saw this photo on another site, and it shows General Patton presumably in 1944-1945 in Germany.  I would guess the gun is a captured "prize". 

It appears to me to be a Jaeger sort of flintlock gun (I am not presuming it is a rifle).  On the other hand, it appears to be large gun.  Look at that fore end versus his hand.  The ramrod tip looks mighty fat, like a shotgun, but that would be one heavy shotgun. 

I just thought I would share this as a discussion starter.  I am guessing Ed Wenger will have it meticulously replicated soon.   :-D 

I Googled that information on the sign but found nothing useful.  That door construction says to me "Germany" or "Austria" or similar. 

Wonder where this gun ended up? 

God Bless,   Marc



Offline Marcruger

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Re: Jaeger Gun and General Patton
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2022, 06:43:59 PM »
Perhaps this best fits under Antiques.  I intended to post there, but my brain went out on me apparently.

Also, there was no photo attribution on this wartime photo, so I do not have a way to credit anyone. 

Offline Bob Roller

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Re: Jaeger Gun and General Patton
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2022, 11:11:46 PM »
Looks like a heavy target rifle to me or a big bore round ball gun for long range from behind a wall.
Years ago there was a heavy very large bore German muzzle loder in an antique shop here that had
been changed to percussionandthe bore looked to be 3/4" and the barrel was at least 1 and 1/2 across the flats.
I think it had brass butt plare andt rigger guard and the rear sight was missing from the base in thestock.
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Re: Jaeger Gun and General Patton
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2022, 04:07:01 AM »
3/4" is merely moose sized, Bob. ;)
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Re: Jaeger Gun and General Patton
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2022, 05:10:21 AM »
That has to be a rather robust barrel…, cool photo, thanks for posting, Marc!  Best,

       Ed
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Offline heinz

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Re: Jaeger Gun and General Patton
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2022, 03:22:33 PM »
It appears to have a patch box, and the shadow on the steps looks like an open trigger guard with a double trigger.  So most likely a rifle.

A nice gun and a great general
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Re: Jaeger Gun and General Patton
« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2022, 05:18:35 PM »
The German Jaeger corps used what must have been a similar Amussette, against Continental forces in New York.
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Offline Chris_B

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Re: Jaeger Gun and General Patton
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2022, 05:22:29 PM »


L.S. means Luftschutz.
You can translate the sign „air raid control room“
You found those in almost every (bigger?) town, no idea where it might
be located
Kind regards from Germany, Chris

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Re: Jaeger Gun and General Patton
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2022, 07:10:35 AM »
For what it’s worth, I believe the photo was taken in Heidelberg at what became Patton Barracks.
« Last Edit: March 15, 2022, 05:23:08 AM by Sequatchie Rifle »
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Re: Jaeger Gun and General Patton
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2022, 10:07:42 PM »
Alacran called it. An amusette. I had to look it up.

This was the antitank gun that preceded the Pak 40. After encountering it the US replaced the Stuart tank with the Sherman.

Just kidding. But alacran is right, it is an amusette



« Last Edit: March 13, 2022, 10:11:33 PM by JHeath »

Offline Pukka Bundook

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Re: Jaeger Gun and General Patton
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2022, 04:37:34 AM »
Pretty certain that rifle is what Geo. Shumway called Brandenberg School, from up around Berlin.....Prussia.
In fact I'm certain I'm certain!